Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (25 Viewers)

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The singularity theory is definitely interesting.

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God I hope you didn't just wikipedia your way to the singularity theory, don't be like everyone else Linebreak - be special. Be you.

I came across it a while ago when it was mentioned by a professor at Cambridge uni, saying that it's the real big debate for us over the next few decades. Sooner or later, these things will be put into practice in one way or another, and massive legal, moral and philosophical questions will arise from it. The issue is, the way we have always understood what a human is and can be may have completely changed in this time.

Ray Kurzweil has some interesting predictions on this and some of his predictions have been correct in the past, like a computer defeating the best chess player champion.

 

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[Nzoric]

well it's founded by some russian millionaire, so somewhat serious

Those kossack sluts are winning the immortality race. Putin for president 2100 ?!

 

[ZoSo]

Those kossack sluts are winning the immortality race. Putin for president 2100 ?!

RUS tuz mod 2345

 

[Nzoric]

FUCK

 

[JuveJay]

A human brain is required at one stage.

 

[Linebreak]

A human brain is required at one stage.

Or maybe a robotic-computer-human brain hybrid?

 

[swag]

What are your thoughts on the Singularity and the Transhumanist philosophy? Pretty much led by Google and the like these days?

Technical singularity? I saw Ray Kurzweil speak in SF a couple years ago on the topic. He's a little bit of a nut job, but the concept absolutely makes sense to me. One notorious example: in encryption theory, Moore's Law allows you to start decrypting a cypher later and finish sooner because the CPU clock cycle capacity increases faster over time than what you'd gain by deciphering earlier with the older technology. Events like that happen all the time.

As for Transhumanist philosophy, they're just narcissist bastards who won't admit it publicly, but they mostly think they are part of the chosen ones who should live perfectly and forever because they are all God's special unique snowflakes. What I would do to punch them all in the face...

 

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Technical singularity? I saw Ray Kurzweil speak in SF a couple years ago on the topic. He's a little bit of a nut job, but the concept absolutely makes sense to me. One notorious example: in encryption theory, Moore's Law allows you to start decrypting a cypher later and finish sooner because the CPU clock cycle capacity increases faster over time than what you'd gain by deciphering earlier with the older technology. Events like that happen all the time.

As for Transhumanist philosophy, they're just narcissist bastards who won't admit it publicly, but they mostly think they are part of the chosen ones who should live perfectly and forever because they are all God's special unique snowflakes. What I would do to punch them all in the face...

The thing about him is Google has hired him and given him a free reign with their incomparable resources to make his ideas happen.

With the Transhumanists, they actually believe they can become God's themselves, super strong, super intelligent, living for hundreds of years and even forever in a virtual reality.

Skynet may become a reality after all!

 

[swag]

I saw Ray speak after seeing his movie there...

http://forum.juventuz.org/threads/25092-What-Are-You-Doing-Right-Now?p=2982198#post2982198

(who needs Facebook Timeline when you've got the Tuz )

 

[JuveJay]

Or maybe a robotic-computer-human brain hybrid?

If such a thing even exists.

 

[swag]

So here's the real question: Allied Atheist Alliance, United Atheist Alliance or Unified Atheist League??

 

[JuveJay]

Atheists have their own league? How are points scored?

 

[swag]

Dunno, but Athiests United got relegated last season due to a points penalty for "undue influence" of officials at the Athiest Olympics.

 

[Trequartista]

So here's the real question: Allied Atheist Alliance, United Atheist Alliance or Unified Atheist League??

It's more like Richard Dawkins and his minions

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/15/atheism-contrary-to-mega-churches

Atheist churches

Militant atheists are as dogmatic as theists, I prefer to be an agnostic atheist who doesn't care about other people's religion as long as they don't try to push their beliefs down my throat.

 

[swag]

BLOOM!!!!

Yeah, and atheism isn't a religion.

 

[Martin]

BLOOM!!!!

Yeah, and atheism isn't a religion.

Based on the amount of "me-2"-ing in this thread I'd say that "atheism is a religion" is also a religion.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

BLOOM!!!!

 

[JuveJay]

It's more like Richard Dawkins and his minions

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/15/atheism-contrary-to-mega-churches

Atheist churches

Militant atheists are as dogmatic as theists, I prefer to be an agnostic atheist who doesn't care about other people's religion as long as they don't try to push their beliefs down my throat.

Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read.

 

[Trequartista]

It's quite astonishing, isn't it

 

[swag]

Based on the amount of "me-2"-ing in this thread I'd say that "atheism is a religion" is also a religion.

It is a belief system, so yes.