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Mar 9, 2006
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here is a point of view regarding the creation of universe. note: the arabic bits are the quranic verses and right after they r mentioned they then said in english. i'm not arguing with any one here, i believe in what i believe and i respect others who might think other wise but here is a point of view that might be valid to these arguments.
How many muslim scientists won nobel award? 1-2? :rofl:

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nyet i'm not mad, but this is eto pezdits :) i understand and respect your choice and opinion regarding this topic there is no need to post things that others on here might find offensive. believe it or not there are people who believe in these fantasies and i think it should be ok. you are smarter you choose not to believe in such non sense thats superb for you, i'm sincerely happy you figured this life out and and r enjoying it the way you want to enjoy it. so live and let live.

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should i remind you that the basic principles of many of the things that make our life easier today where discovered during the golden age of each religion. example andulusia era, where chemistry, physical, astrology etc etc where pushed to a whole new level? rus before you jump in the deep end of the pool here, try to learn a thing or two about the history of these religions and then you might be better at either understanding them or hell you might even be better at taking shots at them.
I can say what i wanna say about religion and god, look at history of it - billions of people were killed because of it, and now you're telling me that pictures above are too offensive for you and other believers? The history of ur religion is fucking offensive for me too! Why the hell i should care about believers feelings?!

Why the fuck believers are thinking that the world is turning around them? Who the fuck think they are? Kings of the world or something?! "I believe in god, i'm special, pls don't hurt my feelings" - what a strange position, isn't ?!
 

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Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Juventino[RUS];3997949 said:
How many muslim scientists won nobel award? 1-2? :rofl:
wooooooooooow you got me there, ouch you hurt my feelings!!! you r super smart rus :) hitting me back with a prize that was established in 1895 when islamic civilization is 1400 years old!! you owned me comrade job well done. stop being an ignorant and read and learn about the islamic civilization and its contribution to the world before you make such brain farts. p.s did you know that arabs where the first to create an entire hospital dedicated for eye surgery?? thats just an example. our current state has nothing to do with religion but with our political situations ever since most muslim countries where colonized. so save me the look at arabs today bull shit. and if you dont think eye surgery is worth being proud of at least muslims wash there ass after going to the bathroom that to me is a huge contribution hope it hits bathrooms near you soon. oh its 1400 year old invention shame it has'nt caught on for you.

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Juventino[RUS];3997949 said:
How many muslim scientists won nobel award? 1-2? :rofl:

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I can say what i wanna say about religion and god, look at history of it - billions of people were killed because of it, and now you're telling me that pictures above are too offensive for you and other believers? The history of ur religion is fucking offensive for me too! Why the hell i should care about believers feelings?!
yes you can and you r free to say what you want to say but with out crossing the line where its not an opinion but throwing insults at others. and in what way does my religion offend you? do enlighten me. oh and since we r on the topic what in my religions history is offensive to you do share those gems.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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wooooooooooow you got me there, ouch you hurt my feelings!!! you r super smart rus :) hitting me back with a prize that was established in 1895 when islamic civilization is 1400 years old!! you owned me comrade job well done. stop being an ignorant and read and learn about the islamic civilization and its contribution to the world before you make such brain farts. p.s did you know that arabs where the first to create an entire hospital dedicated for eye surgery?? thats just an example. our current state has nothing to do with religion but with our political situations ever since most muslim countries where colonized. so save me the look at arabs today bull shit. and if you dont think eye surgery is worth being proud of at least muslims wash there ass after going to the bathroom that to me is a huge contribution hope it hits bathrooms near you soon. oh its 1400 year old invention shame it has'nt caught on for you.
When? Just tell me the date


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wooooooooooow you got me there, ouch you hurt my feelings!!! you r super smart rus :) hitting me back with a prize that was established in 1895 when islamic civilization is 1400 years old!! you owned me comrade job well done. stop being an ignorant and read and learn about the islamic civilization and its contribution to the world before you make such brain farts. p.s did you know that arabs where the first to create an entire hospital dedicated for eye surgery?? thats just an example. our current state has nothing to do with religion but with our political situations ever since most muslim countries where colonized. so save me the look at arabs today bull shit. and if you dont think eye surgery is worth being proud of at least muslims wash there ass after going to the bathroom that to me is a huge contribution hope it hits bathrooms near you soon. oh its 1400 year old invention shame it has'nt caught on for you.

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yes you can and you r free to say what you want to say but with out crossing the line where its not an opinion but throwing insults at others. and in what way does my religion offend you? do enlighten me. oh and since we r on the topic what in my religions history is offensive to you do share those gems.
Radical islamism it's the religion tumor, deal with it.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Juventino[RUS];3997955 said:
When? Just tell me the date

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Radical islamism it's the religion tumor, deal with it.
your first question: please do read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

as for your second point, there is a massive difference between islam the religion 2 billion people follow and radical islamism. once again do read about both and you will find the difference. extremism is sth that is frowned upon by many muslims my self included. i dont support when radicals fly a plane into a building, nor do i support when extremists take hostage a school in vladikavkaz under the name of religion and what not, bec of these people read the holy quran or the teachings of our prophet they would know islam has no business with such actions but sadly due to there wrong understandings and the fact religion is nothing more but a cover up for there intentions.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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your first question: please do read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

as for your second point, there is a massive difference between islam the religion 2 billion people follow and radical islamism. once again do read about both and you will find the difference. extremism is sth that is frowned upon by many muslims my self included. i dont support when radicals fly a plane into a building, nor do i support when extremists take hostage a school in vladikavkaz under the name of religion and what not, bec of these people read the holy quran or the teachings of our prophet they would know islam has no business with such actions but sadly due to there wrong understandings and the fact religion is nothing more but a cover up for there intentions.
That's why they are bombing peaceful cities day after day :tup: And i love how every defender of quran is saying that all shit is going on because of wrong understanding of this book :tup: :sergio: very, very good position. They send airplanes in the new york because of wrong understanding of quran :tup: terrorists are so stupid, they can't even read quran properly
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Biochemistry, damn. Good luck brother.

I didn't get to spend me holidays back at the mothership because of the flu. I spent about 8 days feeling much under the weather :D

See you around broskie.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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Juventino[RUS];3997964 said:
That's why they are boming peaceful cities day after day :tup: And i love how every defender of quran is saying that all shit is going on because of wrong understanding of this book :sergio:
ladnaaa rus :) come to me when you either read what quran talks about, or when you have the capacity to understand the difference.

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Biochemistry, damn. Good luck brother.

I didn't get to spend me holidays back at the mothership because of the flu. I spent about 8 days feeling much under the weather :D

See you around broskie.
thanks nz i will need it :D sorry to hear that :( hopefully next time you get to have more fun and more importantly bec i remember you were going to be there on your own which might be a bit boring, so may be next time you can go with a bunch of friends that always makes holidays at any mothership bare able :D
 
Mar 9, 2006
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ladnaaa rus :) come to me when you either read what quran talks about, or when you have the capacity to understand the difference.
Yes and women are feeling themselves very comfortable in Islam - hijab, paranja very good type of clothing :tup: do you know that in turkey when woman were raped her rapist could marry her and he will avoid the punishment? and to prove that she was raped she have to find atleast 3!!! witnesses, and you are telling me that islam is amazing religion :sergio:
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I edited it to Islamic state, bad choice of words. It still supports the claim that their laws might be backwards, but they're not Islamic in any way since the state is actually vehemently secular.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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I edited it to Islamic state, bad choice of words. It still supports the claim that their laws might be backwards, but they're not Islamic in any way since the state is actually vehemently secular.
Tommorow they could make a referendum and easily turn their country to islam state but they will not do it because they want to join EU zone
 

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