Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (19 Viewers)

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  • Man make God?

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IrishZebra

IrishZebra

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king Ale said:
There's one answer for your question, which is very easy to grab for which you don't need to be religious or even believe in god, unless you enjoy acting like a confused person who seeks answers to the simplest events around.

Basics are the same in all religions, which are supposed to be showing people the ways of humanity, reminding them of what the human nature values. Religions could be manmade and it still doesn't change the fact that they all spread this way of thinking that every good deed is to be rewarded and every bad deed is to be punished which is a definite answer to your question about different judgment systems. You could find your way without the need to be intimidated by something you cannot understand, so go your way. Religions are essentially to push people towards what human naturally does value, no matter if they are from a god or are invented by human.
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Totally agree :) except for the bolded part
 
Seven

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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king Ale said:
There's one answer for your question, which is very easy to grab for which you don't need to be religious or even believe in god, unless you enjoy acting like a confused person who seeks answers to the simplest events around.

Basics are the same in all religions, which are supposed to be showing people the ways of humanity, reminding them of what the human nature values. Religions could be manmade and it still doesn't change the fact that they all spread this way of thinking that every good deed is to be rewarded and every bad deed is to be punished which is a definite answer to your question about different judgment systems. You could find your way without the need to be intimidated by something you cannot understand, so go your way. Religions are essentially to push people towards what human naturally does value, no matter if they are from a god or are invented by human.
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I disagree. Basic, core ideas are not the same in all religions. They are the same in categories of religions, as an example christianity and islam can definitely be put in the same category. And yes, religion does tend to make people do good things. But it also makes them do bad things out of ignorance. When you add up everything, there are better ways of making people do good things. Religion is often able to make people happy and positive, because their life makes sense. But all in all, you'd have to admit it's pretty much based on the off chance that it's true. Again, there are more solid foundations to pick that can make you just as happy. I understand why religion exists and I think it's understandable people choose it to perform these functions. But it is nowhere near the best option.
 
Sheik Yerbouti

Sheik Yerbouti

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Apr 15, 2006
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Seven said:
I disagree. Basic, core ideas are not the same in all religions. They are the same in categories of religions, as an example christianity and islam can definitely be put in the same category. And yes, religion does tend to make people do good things. But it also makes them do bad things out of ignorance. When you add up everything, there are better ways of making people do good things. Religion is often able to make people happy and positive, because their life makes sense. But all in all, you'd have to admit it's pretty much based on the off chance that it's true. Again, there are more solid foundations to pick that can make you just as happy. I understand why religion exists and I think it's understandable people choose it to perform these functions. But it is nowhere near the best option.
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Totally agree. :)
 
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