Same thing for Christians. We all get lumped together just to justify anti God bias
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Just so you can "perceive" it, does it make it real? If I perceive unicorns, does it make them real? No, that makes your argument a really poor one.
It's only absurd because it cannot be demonstrated or shown to be possible by any means other than the imagination of the mind.
Both of those things are absurd. Just like widows who burn themselves at the pyres of their dead husbands(Sati), or lower caste Hindus not allowed to learn the Vedas. All absurd.
It's only absurd because it cannot be demonstrated or shown to be possible by any means other than the imagination of the mind.
Both of those things are absurd. Just like widows who burn themselves at the pyres of their dead husbands(Sati), or lower caste Hindus not allowed to learn the Vedas. All absurd.
How does the fact that women are protesting against the rule co-relate to the rule not being based on Islam? :wth:
So that's your justification of defending sexual discrimination in your society?
Now you're just trolling!
I was gonna refute your point. But since you're gonna ignore it, I'm just gonna laugh again.
So that's your justification of defending sexual discrimination in your society?
Now you're just trolling!
I was gonna refute your point. But since you're gonna ignore it, I'm just gonna laugh again.
There's a discernable difference between how Wahabi islam behaves and the fact that statistics like that will always be skewed by looking at the average - the number is fucked for a number of reasons - A, nature, when a woman gets pregnant she has a child and as a societal norm women are more involved in raising children and will work fewer hours, whether and second the tops of corporate companies are dominated by men, which is sexist, and they command the highest salaries and also the full equality laws have only been fully active in recent generations, to include women over the age of 50 who would have struggled to gain qualifications for higher paying jobs and even get the job when they have them. If you were to compare women between th ages of 20-50 without children against between men aged 20-50 in a wage bracket of 20 000 - 100 000 those numbers would be a lot more balanced.
Equality laws in the UK are so stringent that any form of discrimination will seriously fuck a company up.
when i said UAE i meant this
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Women in the UAE have a rather low level of protection in terms of physical integrity. Violence against women is quite common and laws that prohibit violence and verbal abuse do not apply in the home, making domestic violence a serious problem. In addition, the law does not recognise the concept of spousal rape. The existing Penal Code gives male guardians the right to discipline women and children at their discretion, including the use of physical violence. As noted by the US Department of State, a 2005 UAE university study found that 66 per cent of all women permanently residing in the country have experienced domestic abuse.
Violence against women committed by non-family members and outside the home is punishable with fines, prison sentences or even death in the case of rape. Non-citizen perpetrators run the risk of deportation. However, women rarely report their abusers because of shame and fear of social stigma.
Female genital mutilation is not illegal in the UAE, but the Ministry of Health prohibits the practice in state hospitals and clinics. Nevertheless, FGM continues to be carried out in private clinics and in rural areas. An estimated 30 per cent of the total female population are believed to have undergone some form of FGM; it is practised mainly among Somali, Omani and Sudanese expatriates living in UAE.
The sex ratio at birth is tilted in favour of males, suggesting that the UAE is a country of concern in relation to missing women.
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Equality laws in the UK are so stringent that any form of discrimination will seriously fuck a company up.
when i said UAE i meant this
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Women in the UAE have a rather low level of protection in terms of physical integrity. Violence against women is quite common and laws that prohibit violence and verbal abuse do not apply in the home, making domestic violence a serious problem. In addition, the law does not recognise the concept of spousal rape. The existing Penal Code gives male guardians the right to discipline women and children at their discretion, including the use of physical violence. As noted by the US Department of State, a 2005 UAE university study found that 66 per cent of all women permanently residing in the country have experienced domestic abuse.
Violence against women committed by non-family members and outside the home is punishable with fines, prison sentences or even death in the case of rape. Non-citizen perpetrators run the risk of deportation. However, women rarely report their abusers because of shame and fear of social stigma.
Female genital mutilation is not illegal in the UAE, but the Ministry of Health prohibits the practice in state hospitals and clinics. Nevertheless, FGM continues to be carried out in private clinics and in rural areas. An estimated 30 per cent of the total female population are believed to have undergone some form of FGM; it is practised mainly among Somali, Omani and Sudanese expatriates living in UAE.
The sex ratio at birth is tilted in favour of males, suggesting that the UAE is a country of concern in relation to missing women.
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No scientist would deny the existence of a god, that would be unscientific, but by the same merit they couldn't deny the existence of fairies or unicorns. Dawkins famously gets misrepresented for saying that -
(skip to 1:38 to have a simple explaination of it)
But for a scientist to state that something exists with no proof for its existence makes him a fool.
(skip to 1:38 to have a simple explaination of it)
But for a scientist to state that something exists with no proof for its existence makes him a fool.
1) How does the fact that women are protesting against the rule co-relate to the rule not being based on Islam? :wth:
2) So that's your justification of defending sexual discrimination in your society?
3) Now you're just trolling!
I was gonna refute your point. But since you're gonna ignore it, I'm just gonna laugh again.
2) So that's your justification of defending sexual discrimination in your society?
3) Now you're just trolling!
I was gonna refute your point. But since you're gonna ignore it, I'm just gonna laugh again.
2) Ok, now you're starting to annoy me. I just explicitly stated that i do not condone any sort of sexual discrimination, how and where did you see me justifying sexual discrimination?!
3) I am. But its trolling with a purpose, the purpose is to show you what you guys are doing. I was using your reasoning. You believe muslims should have to answer for one country which happens to be muslim banning women from driving, despite the fact that me and the overwhelming majority of muslims do not agree with that practice, and despite the fact that you cannot justify it from an Islamic perspective at all(and i dare anyone to do that).
The UAE is a country that is 40 years old. It is still evolving, lets not forget that it wasn't so long ago when women weren't even allowed to vote in countries like the UK and the US. Give it time to evolve. Plus, there are so many third world developing countries that have worst laws and worst records of sexual discrimination than the UAE that are not muslim countries, so this argument can go two ways.
That completely misses the mark with how I behave. The real reason that I don't bother with debating Islam too much is because of the culture I have to live, in which the lines between questioning a belief system, racism and islamiphobia are extremely thing, also Islam is a far more fragmented religion than christianity (in which the largest sect has one-fucking evil-man who speaks on behalf of 'god' and the believers and dictates laws that are so morally corrupt its ludicrous). Im not interested if i offend people, but drawing the lines of discussion are so easily misinterpreted that its not worth it, given how differently the different theocracies/autocracies in the main islamic region behave.
christianity and judaism are organised in very different ways, and i wish i could have a debate in which i could bring a lot of stuff up to the right people, but its not possible. But the problem that unifies you all is that no matter who believes what part and acts on it, you as a believer in the faith give power the leaders that undertakes the disgraceful laws.
christianity and judaism are organised in very different ways, and i wish i could have a debate in which i could bring a lot of stuff up to the right people, but its not possible. But the problem that unifies you all is that no matter who believes what part and acts on it, you as a believer in the faith give power the leaders that undertakes the disgraceful laws.