Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

[YasoR17]

Can a non-believer become a Muslim in hell and then go to heaven?

Well yes of course not.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Christianity for me because Yeshua fulfilled all the prophecies of messiah. His words have authority , they speak to my essence. Personally there is no biblical prophecies that Mohammed fulfills, nor is there a mention in the old testament of someone after Messiah.

That's your personal feeling. You can't say that people denied the obvious if that was what they were shown.

Are you sure there is nothing in the Quran about Mohammed fulfilling prophecy. And that's not the only other religion.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No no no. That is an insult. I have you a perfectly good reason for my belief. But you decided to discuss it rather than refute it logically and ended up calling me ridiculous. It would've been ok if you called my explanation ridiculous, but you said "you are ridiculous"(I'm correcting your grammatical listener btw).

I have been trying to discuss this with you for a long time and you mock, laugh it off and call me irrational and illogical, yet I offended you by saying you were being ridiculous? Cmon man

 

[Seven]

No clue I dont see how im the sexist and the offender when I'm the one being called a girl, weak, insane and lunatic

What if those things are mere statements of facts? Are they then still insults?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No muslims go to hell for infinity. Muslims who are weak believers go to hell, but after an unkown time they go to heaven. So all muslims go to heaven. The non-believers go to hell for infinity.

Right, so I'm going to hell because Allah failed to give substantial evidence for his existence? That's bloody unfair.

Oh btw, this means Andrea is going to hell too, right? So his faith in jesus didn't matter.

 

[Martin]

No muslims go to hell for infinity. Muslims who are weak believers go to hell, but after an unkown time they go to heaven. So all muslims go to heaven. The non-believers go to hell for infinity.

It's immaterial, however, because we'll all go to Inter hell anyway for supporting Juve over Inter.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

That's your personal feeling. You can't say that people denied the obvious if that was what they were shown.

Are you sure there is nothing in the Quran about Mohammed fulfilling prophecy. And that's not the only other religion.

You asked me why Christianity I told you from my perspective why. Also if you read the Old testament both the hebrew and greek translation there is no mention of Mohammed or anyone after messiah. The torah is thousands of years old and new testament 600+ years older than the quaran so for me the piece that doesnt fit is the quaran

 

[AndreaCristiano]

What if those things are mere statements of facts? Are they then still insults?

Statement of facts huh

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I have been trying to discuss this with you for a long time and you mock, laugh it off and call me irrational and illogical, yet I offended you by saying you were being ridiculous? Cmon man

What if those things are mere statements of facts? Are they then still insults?

That would be my response too, andrea. Please answer seven.

 

[Seven]

Statement of facts huh

Yes. Let's say you are a lunatic. Then I proceed to call you a lunatic. Is this still an insult? After all, you are a lunatic to begin with.

I'm confused? Could you explain this to me?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

See Deneb, there's no need to manipulate words, people believe what they want to believe.

i am still looking for proof according to tradition though, i want someone to come out and say he/she is going to heaven at soem point nd show me their proof, there simply isnt, but yes they are free to believe what they want

 

[YasoR17]

Personally there is no biblical prophecies that Mohammed fulfills, nor is there a mention in the old testament of someone after Messiah.

Actually Prophet Mohammed is mentioned in the Bible by name in the HEBREW Bible. Of course that part never made it to the edited and english translation of the Bible.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

You asked me why Christianity I told you from my perspective why. Also if you read the Old testament both the hebrew and greek translation there is no mention of Mohammed or anyone after messiah. The torah is thousands of years old and new testament 600+ years older than the quaran so for me the piece that doesnt fit is the quaran

So if it was lets say 453 instead of 600+ years you would believe in Quran?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

That would be my response too, andrea. Please answer seven.

Statements of fact? I'm neither a girl nor a lunatic etc so how can they be statements of fact

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You asked me why Christianity I told you from my perspective why. Also if you read the Old testament both the hebrew and greek translation there is no mention of Mohammed or anyone after messiah. The torah is thousands of years old and new testament 600+ years older than the quaran so for me the piece that doesnt fit is the quaran

What about Krishna? Krishna fulfilled a prophecy too, and the hindu texts precede Abrahamic texts by several years to.

 

[king Ale]

What if those things are mere statements of facts? Are they then still insults?

Apart from being a female, how could they be statements of facts?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You asked me why Christianity I told you from my perspective why. Also if you read the Old testament both the hebrew and greek translation there is no mention of Mohammed or anyone after messiah. The torah is thousands of years old and new testament 600+ years older than the quaran so for me the piece that doesnt fit is the quaran

Right, because I asked you what separates Christianity from the other religions that makes it so certain. Personal feeling doesn't really cut it.

As for the ages of those books, does being older mean it's more credible? What about the Hindu book which is the oldest?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

So if it was lets say 453 instead of 600+ years you would believe in Quran?

No I wouldnt the torah and new testament are complimentary the Quran is not

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Right, because I asked you what separates Christianity from the other religions that makes it so certain. Personal feeling doesn't really cut it.

As for the ages of those books, does being older mean it's more credible? What about the Hindu book which is the oldest?

When it comes to a relationship with Deity personal feelings are a huge part also I explained to you how Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies in the oild testament , which no one else ever has
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/prophchr.html

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Actually Prophet Mohammed is mentioned in the Bible by name in the HEBREW Bible. Of course that part never made it to the edited and english translation of the Bible.

Please, you just don't wanna go into this discussion.