Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (13 Viewers)

[Alen]

There is no God but Alla...(dies)

Imagine going to hell for one single sound you failed to say before dying

 

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[Seven]

Easy, you will end up in hell.

So:

A lives an awful life, slaughters millions says 'Allah this, Allah that'.
B lives a good life, is kind to everyone around him, cures cancer.

B goes to hell.

Yeah... I sort of have doubts about the fairness of your so called religion.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

ps what does this theological discussion on dogma have to do with the topic of if God exists or not

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Then you dont have knowledge of Jesus but if you were shown it all and you believed but refused you would sin

How can you believe something but refuse it?

 

[Seven]

There is no God but Alla...(dies)

Imagine going to hell for one single sound you failed to say before dying

It's all mumbo jumbo anyway. If you cough up phlegm it sounds just the same as Allah Akbar or whatever it is they want you to say.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

So:

A lives an awful life, slaughters millions says 'Allah this, Allah that'.
B lives a good life, is kind to everyone around him, cures cancer.

B goes to hell.

Yeah... I sort of have doubts about the fairness of your so called religion.

That cant be how it is it doesnt make any logical sense

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Then you dont have knowledge of Jesus but if you were shown it all and you believed but refused you would sin

See, but we're NOT shown it all. In fact, we're shown nothing. Showing it's a form of providing evidence, which sadly no religion does satisfactorily.

So:

A lives an awful life, slaughters millions says 'Allah this, Allah that'.
B lives a good life, is kind to everyone around him, cures cancer.

B goes to hell.

Yeah... I sort of have doubts about the fairness of your so called religion.

Precisely.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

[إِنَّ اللَّهَ لا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ]

"God doesn't forgive infidelity and forgive everything else for whomever he wants" Quran Nisaa' 48.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

How can you believe something but refuse it?

There are many people who know that Jesus was the messiah yet refuse it, for their desire to live as they see fit or for the reason of belonging to another religion and not wanting to upset their family/community

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

There are many people who know that Jesus was the messiah yet refuse it, for their desire to live as they see fit or for the reason of belonging to another religion and not wanting to upset their family/community

Shown in what way? Like actual visions of God appearing to them?

 

[DelpieroForLife]

That cant be how it is it doesnt make any logical sense

When did religion ever make any logical sense?

 

[Seven]

Shown in what way? Like actual visions of God appearing to them?

No. I think more along the lines of a lunatic telling you on an internet forum it is so.

 

[Seven]

When did religion ever make any logical sense?

Since the dawn of Scientology.

 

[acmilan]

[إِنَّ اللَّهَ لا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ]

"God doesn't forgive infidelity and forgive everything else for whomever he wants" Quran Nisaa' 48.

young man, are you implying religion is full of contradictions?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

مَنْ كَانَ آخِرُ كَلاَمِهِ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ دَخَلَ الْجَنَّةَ

Prophet Mohammed "A man whose last words was there is no God but Allah will go to heaven".

مَنْ كَانَ آخِرُ كَلاَمِهِ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ دَخَلَ الْجَنَّةَ

Prophet Mohammed "A man whose last words was there is no God but Allah will go to heaven".

now this is much better though that is in neither of the sahihs(weak), however a quick googling will explain that one too.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No. I think more along the lines of a lunatic telling you on an internet forum it is so.

so once again the atheists offend

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No. I think more along the lines of a lunatic telling you on an internet forum it is so.

Or in a church on sunday. Or a mosque in friday.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

so once again the atheists offend

But really, though? How are they shown?

 

[Seven]

so once again the atheists offend

'Tis what we do. That and burn in the gates of hell for eternity.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

so once again the atheists offend

You resorted to name-calling a few pages ago too. So don't act like a saint.