Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (27 Viewers)

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  • Man make God?

  • God make Man?


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Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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1- Anything can be misued for bad behaviour, but religion in general, all religious teachings, not necessarily always the behaviour of its adherents, encourage good behaviour. Just because a scientist may create a nuclear bomb that kills millions, it doesn't mean science = bad.

2- Say I turned up in the USA, not knowing anything about Mt Rushmore and I visit the area. The Tour Guide tells me "You know, those faces were created by years and years, millions of years of erosion, and it just so happened to form the faces of four future US presidents, it's truly a miracle of nature". Would I not look at this guy and think he's crazy?
Thanks for answering.

1- Yep, exactly my point. Religion encourages both good & bad behaviour, like many other things. The reason I replied was because you mentionned the positive side, yet ignored the bad one. Which makes it a moot point.

2- I see. No one is saying that though, right? Even if it would be funny :D
Not sure how that ties into the religion debate though. Or are you saying that believing in that "miracle of nature" is somewhat equal to believing in a god?


I think you are intimidated by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
I am intimidated by how delicious he looks :lick:
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
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Oh i agree. You could tell me that you had a sandwich this morning, and normally I would not ask you to prove it. That's because that statement has no bearing on my life or my actions. But if you tell me that a god spoke to you and asked all mankind to worship him, then i bloody well will ask for more evidence to actually believe your anecdote. I will certainly not take it for granted, and that's what I'm doing with the concept of god.

Good night mate. May your brain treat you with a wonderful dream! :D
Haha, I'm not that out there, I haven't spoken to god yet :p
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Thanks for answering.

1- Yep, exactly my point. Religion encourages both good & bad behaviour, like many other things. The reason I replied was because you mentionned the positive side, yet ignored the bad one. Which makes it a moot point.

2- I see. No one is saying that though, right? Even if it would be funny :D
Not sure how that ties into the religion debate though. Or are you saying that believing in that "miracle of nature" is somewhat equal to believing in a god?




I am intimidated by how delicious he looks :lick:
It's simply an example to highlight that no one would accept that Mt Rushmore could have conceivably came about by chance, there is absolutely no way in the world something like that could have happened by chance, yet many are willing to accept that the entire universe, which makes Mt Rushmore look smaller than an Atom in comparison, did come about by chance.

It's inconceivable that such a universe could have come about by chance.
 

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