Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (22 Viewers)

[Raz]

On a different note, the stuff that is written in those books should be used according to todays world too, not note to note, and that is why you have to read(if you want to ofc) the why in them and not the blind how.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

I don't expect god to give me any answers or shortcuts, I have to find them myself. Actually I don't expect nothing from this god as I think god doesn't expect anything from me(to simply say he doesn't care at least in human perseption of care(feelings))

I just think it's there, I have no idea why he is there I just have this feeling thats all.

So you put him there as an answer to your "feelings" whose cause or source is unknown. The god of the gaps, as it's known. Fine. Keep it to yourself.

On a different note, the stuff that is written in those books should be used according to todays world too, not note to note, and that is why you have to read(if you want to ofc) the why in them and not the blind how.

If you admit that they were written by men, then it's only reasonable to read them in the context of when they were written. Obviously, them men never had any divine revelations, so they knew nothing specific about the future. Also, like Trequartista said, when you interpret them with present knowledge and understanding of nature and how things work, the true meaning that the writers wished to express back then will become skewed and misinterpreted.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

I just think it's there, I have no idea why he is there I just have this feeling thats all.

Respect.

 

[Linebreak]

So you put him there as an answer to your "feelings" whose cause or source is unknown. The god of the gaps, as it's known. Fine. Keep it to yourself.


If you admit that they were written by men, then it's only reasonable to read them in the context of when they were written. Obviously, them men never had any divine revelations, so they knew nothing specific about the future. Also, like Trequartista said, when you interpret them with present knowledge and understanding of nature and how things work, the true meaning that the writers wished to express back then will become skewed and misinterpreted.

They did have divine revelations. It is not their own words. You have to study their lives to realise who these blessed people were.

Present knowledge is ever changing, the eternal truth is not.

 

[Salvo]

Jesus was chosen to be divine by a bunch of dudes, not god. Just thought I would throw that in there

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Jesus was a cult leader.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

They did have divine revelations. It is not their own words. You have to study their lives to realise who these blessed people were.

Present knowledge is ever changing, the eternal truth is not.

Don't be so gullible, McFly!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Jesus was a politician.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Jesus was a figment of their imagination.

 

[Linebreak]

Jesus was chosen to be divine by a bunch of dudes, not god. Just thought I would throw that in there

Many witnesses saw him speak as a baby, witnessed him heal the sick, saw him involved in numerous miracles. He changed the world completely. But hey, I guess it's easier to believe in fairytales, like some day my descendants will have wings if I want it strongly enough right now.

 

[Linebreak]

Jesus was a figment of their imagination.

lol - ignorance is a bliss.

 

[Linebreak]

Jesus was a politician.

A politician? I thought you were slightly more intelligent than that TWW?

 

[Raz]

So you put him there as an answer to your "feelings" whose cause or source is unknown. The god of the gaps, as it's known. Fine. Keep it to yourself.


If you admit that they were written by men, then it's only reasonable to read them in the context of when they were written. Obviously, them men never had any divine revelations, so they knew nothing specific about the future. Also, like Trequartista said, when you interpret them with present knowledge and understanding of nature and how things work, the true meaning that the writers wished to express back then will become skewed and misinterpreted.

I think there are that things don't change, wars are thought for same reasons, lovers kill for same reasons, mothers love their child for same reasons, stealing is done for same reasons and etc. some stuff doesn't change trhough time.

 

[ZoSo]

I wish I recorded the speech that the bishop made about atheism at the christmas eve mass.

 

[Linebreak]

I wish I recorded the speech that the bishop made about atheism at the christmas eve mass.

Anything you'd like to share?

 

[Nzoric]

Great, all the shops are closed because a delusional carpenter got crucified 2000 years ago. I hate this day

 

[Linebreak]

Great, all the shops are closed because a delusional carpenter got crucified 2000 years ago. I hate this day

Have some respect for others troll

 

[ZoSo]

Anything you'd like to share?

Basically, it was something along the lines of that athetists have no hope, nothing to offer and they often tend to mock chrisitans (and other religions) and our beliefs and traditions because their arguments are poor.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Our arguments are poor?

 

[ZoSo]

Yes. But I didn't come on to Juventuz to argue about religion and I really can't be bothered arguing about it so I'm not going to.