Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (35 Viewers)

[X Æ A-12]

God does none of that for me. I don't let God think for me or what to do or think. I have free will I choose whether to follow Gods tenants or not

Lol ok so that's why your opinions are sooooo predictable.

I don't know who Manson is, all i know is that it doesn't take much to be smarter than Bill O'Reilly. There are idiots everywhere, religious and non religious.

hehe you probably wouldn't like Manson but he's great. If you know who Charles Manson is it's not a coincidence Marylin took his name.

The second part is definitely true. Stupidity is universal.

He is a moron. We all know. But it doesn't change the fact that he asked Dawkins a brilliant question which Dawkins had no answer to.

That wasn't a brilliant question at all.

 

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It was - science alone gives us zero meaning and zero direction

 

[Fred]

He is a man who believes a certain way and from a certain era. Maybe a little simple but no not a moron

Man i watch his videos all the time. The guy is a huge moron, there's no sugar coating it.

Google image Marilyn Manson right this instant

:wth:

 

[Trequartista]

It was - science alone gives us zero meaning and zero direction

It doesn't, it's concerned about evidence and fact.

I don't see why it should be an answer to everything.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Lol ok so that's why your opinions are sooooo predictable.

hehe you probably wouldn't like Manson but he's great. If you know who Charles Manson is it's not a coincidence Marylin took his name.

The second part is definitely true. Stupidity is universal.


That wasn't a brilliant question at all.

If you see them as predictable its because I have chosen to follow the tenants so I will answer And form my thoughts around those. just like you do with science and your atheism

 

[Alen]

We think we know a lot but I think that we're way too far from understanding many things about us or our capabilities which we don't know how to use yet.

A friend of mine, who isn't some healer or something but is an academic, was moving me however he wanted, standing 5 meters behind me. He was using his hands and he sent some crazy energy towards me, forcing me to move left, right, forward or backward. It wasn't a mind game, he wasn't telling me where will he move me. He was writing on a piece of paper where will he move me (my wife was a witness) and he was doing that.
The guy stands 5 meters behind me, my feet stand firm on the ground, but the upper part of my body was floating left, right, forward, backward.
Now explain this shit?

 

[Trequartista]

If you see them as predictable its because I have chosen to follow the tenants so I will answer And form my thoughts around those. just like you do with science and your atheism

Atheism doesn't follow any tenants, it's not a belief system.

It's merely the rejection of the theistic proposition.

 

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It doesn't, it's concerned about evidence and fact.

I don't see why it should be an answer to everything.

Fundamentalists like Dawkins are saying we should throw religion in the bin, something that gives us meaning, for science, something meaningless. And Atheists like Dawkins DO say science does and will answer everything

 

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We think we know a lot but I think that we're way too far from understanding many things about us or our capabilities which we don't know how to use yet.

A friend of mine, who isn't some healer or something but is an academic, was moving me however he wanted, standing 5 meters behind me. He was using his hands and he sent some crazy energy towards me, forcing me to move left, right, forward or backward. It wasn't a mind game, he wasn't telling me where will he move me. He was writing on a piece of paper where will he move me (my wife was a witness) and he was doing that.
The guy stands 5 meters behind me, my feet stand firm on the ground, but the upper part of my body was floating left, right, forward, backward.
Now explain this shit?

Science will say you're either crazy, drunk, hallucinating, mentally retarded or something along those lines

 

[X Æ A-12]

If you see them as predictable its because I have chosen to follow the tenants so I will answer And form my thoughts around those. just like you do with science and your atheism

But my point is that did you really ever "choose" to follow it? Anyway I don't get your last bit. I don't follow atheism, have any atheist principles, or base my beliefs around anything like that. I'm not an Atheist in the way that you're a Christian if you get my point.

 

[JuveJay]

Google image Marilyn Manson right this instant

 

[Ford Prefect]

Fundamentalists like Dawkins are saying we should throw religion in the bin, something that gives us meaning, for science, something meaningless. And Atheists like Dawkins DO say science does and will answer everything

No we don't....you clearly don't understand how science works and what the ideologies are that surround athiesm. If a scientist or athiest said anything like that to me I would treat them with as much contempt as I do theists (thats someone who believes in a god...incase you aren't clever enough to work it out).

 

[Alen]

Science will say you're either crazy, drunk, hallucinating, mentally retarded or something along those lines

Science is well aware that this energy exists, but I guess they still can't explain it or they don't want to make it public so we won't learn how to use it

 

[X Æ A-12]

We think we know a lot but I think that we're way too far from understanding many things about us or our capabilities which we don't know how to use yet.

A friend of mine, who isn't some healer or something but is an academic, was moving me however he wanted, standing 5 meters behind me. He was using his hands and he sent some crazy energy towards me, forcing me to move left, right, forward or backward. It wasn't a mind game, he wasn't telling me where will he move me. He was writing on a piece of paper where will he move me (my wife was a witness) and he was doing that.
The guy stands 5 meters behind me, my feet stand firm on the ground, but the upper part of my body was floating left, right, forward, backward.
Now explain this shit?

Don't worry you haven't been left out. AC already made a thread for stuff like this.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

We think we know a lot but I think that we're way too far from understanding many things about us or our capabilities which we don't know how to use yet.

A friend of mine, who isn't some healer or something but is an academic, was moving me however he wanted, standing 5 meters behind me. He was using his hands and he sent some crazy energy towards me, forcing me to move left, right, forward or backward. It wasn't a mind game, he wasn't telling me where will he move me. He was writing on a piece of paper where will he move me (my wife was a witness) and he was doing that.
The guy stands 5 meters behind me, my feet stand firm on the ground, but the upper part of my body was floating left, right, forward, backward.
Now explain this shit?

Well said alen

 

[Trequartista]

Fundamentalists like Dawkins are saying we should throw religion in the bin, something that gives us meaning, for science, something meaningless. And Atheists like Dawkins DO say science does and will answer everything

It's not about what gives us meanings that is important, what is important is to find the truth.

A lie can be very comforting and can certainly give meaning to people. Nevertheless, it's still a lie.

 

[The Curr]

AndreaCristiano, are you a Christian? If yes, why aren't you a Muslim? What makes you think that Christianity is the right religion and not Islam?

Damn it Curr

Great minds and all that.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Atheism doesn't follow any tenants, it's not a belief system.

It's merely the rejection of the theistic proposition.

That's bs atheism is a belief system. its a choice to not believe in a diety and to follow scientific tenants as your God

 

[Nzoric]

What does science say about the meaning of our existence?

So science fails to satisfy us in something very basic?

Why do you need something to tell you what the meaning of your existence is?

 

[ALC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNCiJt7Cvoo

I'm an idiot though, all along they were talking about Charles Manson.

Edit: nevermind, I'm confused.