Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

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There's nowhere near enough time for us to find out anything significant. Hundreds of generations later maybe. Planets are wayy to fucking far apart, especially the ones with weird aliens on them. I'd love for us to communicate with them maybe. Those new neutrinos or whatever they discovered that move faster than light could make that happen, I suppose. Only if they made them even faster than what they are, a lot faster. That'd be cool.

The truth isn't in deep space, it's in yourself

 

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[ALC]

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Zé Tahir]

There's nowhere near enough time for us to find out anything significant. Hundreds of generations later maybe. Planets are wayy to fucking far apart, especially the ones with weird aliens on them. I'd love for us to communicate with them maybe. Those new neutrinos or whatever they discovered that move faster than light could make that happen, I suppose. Only if they made them even faster than what they are, a lot faster. That'd be cool.

It's impossible to travel at the speed of light so you can forget that we'll ever travel at speeds of anything faster. The faster an object moves the more mass it gains. The infinite amount of mass it gains makes it impossible to accelerate it at those speeds.

 

[Golazo]

"Does God exist?" and "Did God make man?" are two separate questions, in my opinion.

I believe God exists, but I do believe in Evolution. I don't believe in Genesis, when all the facts point against it.

I voted the 2nd one, because it seems as if people are voting on the existence issue.

 

[ALC]

It's impossible to travel at the speed of light so you can forget that we'll ever travel at speeds of anything faster. The faster an object moves the more mass it gains. The infinite amount of mass it gains makes it impossible to accelerate it at those speeds.

I'm talking about communication. They already discovered these particles that travel slightly faster than the speed of light. Maybe it could be possible to send signals using those, but they'd have to be made even faster.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Fiber optics?

 

[icemaη]

Neutrinos. Even though the claim is refuted by quite a few.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

There's nowhere near enough time for us to find out anything significant. Hundreds of generations later maybe. Planets are wayy to fucking far apart, especially the ones with weird aliens on them. I'd love for us to communicate with them maybe. Those new neutrinos or whatever they discovered that move faster than light could make that happen, I suppose. Only if they made them even faster than what they are, a lot faster. That'd be cool.

I know its not possibly right now, but it's something that humanity should be interested in as a whole. Future generations should try to learn something from it.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Neutrinos. Even though the claim is refuted by quite a few.

I know that. I meant light carrying information, isn't that how fiber optics work?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I know that. I meant light carrying information, isn't that how fiber optics work?

More like light representing Information, IIRC. 0's and 1's.

 

[JuveJay]

If that were true, comets would be teeming with it.

Temperature and stability -- and stability perhaps more than anything else -- plays a role.

Obviously I'm talking under planetary conditions, which is why I said water rather than water ice or heavy water.

 

[JuveJay]

Not necessarily. I'm trying to find this BBC article from not so long ago about the discovery of water on a planet which has no indication of life.

Maybe I should be clearer but I'm talking about surface water, there is water vapour and water ice all across just our solar system.

Also, I'd like to read this article to see how they can explain no indication of life considering we have no way of measuring it, not even instruments to image a planet outside our solar system.

 

[JuveJay]

Also, we can't exclude the possibility that sentient life can develop under conditions lethal to us.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

3 posts in a row should mean an automatic ban.

 

[ALC]

I know that. I meant light carrying information, isn't that how fiber optics work?

Yeah, but you still need a conductor(the fibers), right? I'm saying some sort of Morse code.

 

[swag]

Not necessarily. I'm trying to find this BBC article from not so long ago about the discovery of water on a planet which has no indication of life. Which leads scientists to believe that the existence of water doesn't automatically mean there is life but of course life is still the prerequisite for life to exist anywhere.

Comets are a large percentage of water, and there are tons of them. The moons of Uranus are composed mostly of frozen water. Even the earth's moon has water: http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/thinking-tech/theres-water-on-the-moon-8212-a-lot-of-it/5548

 

[ALC]

I guess that means if we develop some sort of machinery that efficiently separates the oxygen from the hydrogen, humans could live in other planets.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I guess that means if we develop some sort of machinery that efficiently separates the oxygen from the hydrogen, humans could live in other planets.

You would have to also create an atmosphere conducive to human life

 

[swag]

I guess that means if we develop some sort of machinery that efficiently separates the oxygen from the hydrogen, humans could live in other planets.

Perhaps we can make a reverse Sabatier reaction -- combining water with methane to produce hydrogen and carbon dioxide in the presence of a nickel catalyst.

Or: we send astronauts into space with bags of Los Pollos Hermanos and 44-ounce Slurpies.

 

[blondu]

i can't figure out how come christianity had such success over europe considering rome, the eastern tribes and the amount of people who got killed because of spreading this religion