Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (27 Viewers)

[Hængebøffer]

Thanks man most people don't get the chance to actually know me, they all have preconceptions because I'm a Christian

That's bs.

 

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[AndreaCristiano]

No, he took a crash course in "protecting from evil" at the Templar University in Jersey.

This is ,mockery

 

[Martin]

Martin, I think you're conflating internal knowledge with external knowledge as the only true form of knowledge.

That's why I compare it to psychoanalysis. Which is knowledge too, in a veeeery loose sense of the term. To the point where it becomes inextinguishable from hot air.

 

[swag]

To quote swag just a few posts higher up "terms are of only secondary importance", so if it doesn't matter what religion means then I guess it doesn't matter what knowledge means either?

Maybe I read you wrong, but it sounds like you discounted any value in knowledge of the self.

 

[Hængebøffer]

No it isn't

I believe in Oxford Dictionary - respect that

 

[Nzoric]

This is ,mockery

Damn straight it is. I told you it would stop the second you send me proof that you're a templar. Until then I can't take you seriously

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I don't think it is irrelevant, though, to try and better understand where something comes from in order to better understand where we could be going.

Yes it is because when looking at the founders and their frame of mind that wasn't in their thought. So using that as you did to basically counter my argument of human immorality didn't fit the point. One is your opinion which wasn't held by those who formulated a nation based on those laws

 

[Nzoric]

I believe in Oxford Dictionary - respect that

esoteric asshole

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Damn straight it is. I told you it would stop the second you send me proof that you're a templar. Until then I can't take you seriously

That's fine pm me so tomorrow I can send you a picture of my membership card

 

[Hængebøffer]

esoteric asshole

A lot of people don't get me
I'm drunk again!

 

[Nzoric]

That's fine pm me so tomorrow I can send you a picture of my membership card

No, picture at the club house in full armor.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I believe in Oxford Dictionary - respect that

I just tried to look up scientiical and nothing comes up

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I would get into a discussion and ask a lot of questions and learn first, judge second. The difference is in judging first and then looking for patterns in the observational data to fit your preconceived hypothesis.

I honestly fail to see how this answers either of my questions.

why do you show such a disdain for non-believers? ever wondered why people see as narrow minded, ignorant, closed off and arrogant?

you have no respect for science, which you have proven time and time again, when you try to discuss matters that has its basis in scientifical studies. like crime and economics. you deny empirical evidence to suit ur faith. its so disrespectful towards us who have faith in science and the humankind.

ur taking part in this discussion serves no purpose but to preach.

Seriously, award this as the best post of 2013 this very instant!

Yes but I'm not antagonist about it. I also have doubts at times don't think that my faith is always rock solid. Youre problem is you worry too much about looking gullible or less intelligent. The search for God in the end is your own and what others think means shit

Wrong again about what I'm worrying about. Also, just because my search for god looks different from yours, doesn't make mine any less valid. We are looking for the same thing. What differs is our starting point and our methodologies.

 

[TrezJuve]

I do not know I don't have huge trust in human morality so probably not. I think humans easily grab for power and greed which leads to corrupt governments

Corruption isn't present in religious governments?

 

[AndreaCristiano]

No, picture at the club house in full armor.

Can't do that I asked the full regalia has some esoteric symbols which are not for public viewing

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Corruption isn't present in religious governments?

Never said that the human being is still corrupt able

 

[Maddy]

I just tried to look up scientiical and nothing comes up

well start by spellin it right, maietta

 

[Nzoric]

Can't do that I asked the full regalia has some esoteric symbols which are not for public viewing

You and Zach - epic liars

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I honestly fail to see how this answers either of my questions.



Seriously, award this as the best post of 2013 this very instant!



Wrong again about what I'm worrying about. Also, just because my search for god looks different from yours, doesn't make mine any less valid. We are looking for the same thing. What differs is our starting point and our methodologies.

Hey I never said your search was invalid nor did I say it wasn't honest. I just said that sometimes you go about it in a hard way

 

[Kate]

Yes it is because when looking at the founders and their frame of mind that wasn't in their thought. So using that as you did to basically counter my argument of human immorality didn't fit the point. One is your opinion which wasn't held by those who formulated a nation based on those laws

The original line of questioning, if I'm correct, was Huitz saying that he wants a move away from religion in government, which you countered with your talk of the founding fathers and Judeo-Christian morality being the base of the United States. What I was trying to say is that we have moved on from that line of thinking, and that morality is not an invention of Judeo-Christians, so why should we be limiting ourselves to that what the forefathers thought? How is that irrelevant?