Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (22 Viewers)

[ALC]

Because they don't. Show me something that's happened that's miraculous and supernatural, not just luck or coincidence. Rainbows and shit like that don't count.

 

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[Raz]

Because they don't. Show me something that's happened that's miraculous and supernatural, not just luck or coincidence. Rainbows and shit like that don't count.

Well you can always count on luck, which is not measurable to dismiss miracles.

 

[ALC]

Show me a miracle.

 

[Raz]

Show me a miracle.

I can't do those.

 

[ALC]

Not you, show me an example of one.

 

[JuveJay]

 

[ALC]

touche!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'd say that we never see miracles today, but then AC would say that even a drop of water is a miracle to him.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of a miracle?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

They always find a way to back out of reasoning.

 

[ALC]

It must be nice waking up in the morning and having miracles happen all day long.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It would be miraculous.

 

[Raz]

It must be nice waking up in the morning and having miracles happen all day long.

It actually really is for the people who believe in them.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

i.e. Opium for the masses.

 

[ALC]

It actually really is for the people who believe in them.

i.e. Opium for the masses.

lol exactly. If your perspective in life is that bubblegummed up, then there's something wrong.

Don't get me wrong, you can appreciate the small stuff and all but not call it a miracle.

 

[Bisco]

I'd say that we never see miracles today, but then AC would say that even a drop of water is a miracle to him.

off course miracles exist today have u forgotten this one?

on a serious note, i do believe in the miracles that r in my religion i just think people take them out of context with present life. i dont want to get dragged into this thread so just to break the tension brewing here i thought i'd answer yr call matty

 

[Dostoevsky]

Show me a miracle.

When somebody is clinically dead for 48 hours and then comes back alive.

Can you show love? How do you actually see that?

If you can't see something it doesn't have to mean it's non-existable.

 

[Bisco]

When somebody is clinically dead for 48 hours and then comes back alive.

Can you show love? How do you actually see that?

If you can't see something it doesn't have to mean it's non-existable.

thats a good example to be honest dus

 

[JuveJay]

Is wind a miracle?

 

[ALC]

When somebody is clinically dead for 48 hours and then comes back alive.

Can you show love? How do you actually see that?

If you can't see something it doesn't have to mean it's non-existable.

That's my point, the first one can't be proven. It was in a book.

Love is an emotion. It's just part of being a complex organism, even animals have that.