Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (20 Viewers)

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  • Man make God?

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IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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1 - RUS continually pwns no one but himself. His unconditional love for Pepe is evidence of this
2 - Show respect to figures that millions around the world, in fact more than 50% of the world, revere as a great figure and as an inspiration
Well, Should I show respect for Hitler? Of course not. Jesus/God is just the same.

I don't believe in Jesus and if you get offended by my point of view then that's your problem. You shouldn't be offended, ignore it. Fuck God.

And RUS is hilarious to me, I don't care if he's pwning himself or if he's pwning Badass. I'm just trying to have a good laugh.
 

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ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Well, Should I show respect for Hitler? Of course not. Jesus/God is just the same.

I don't believe in Jesus and if you get offended by my point of view then that's your problem. You shouldn't be offended, ignore it. Fuck God.

And RUS is hilarious to me, I don't care if he's pwning himself or if he's pwning Badass. I'm just trying to have a good laugh.
It sorta sounds like you still believe in God.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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Well, Should I show respect for Hitler? Of course not. Jesus/God is just the same.

I don't believe in Jesus and if you get offended by my point of view then that's your problem. You shouldn't be offended, ignore it. Fuck God.

And RUS is hilarious to me, I don't care if he's pwning himself or if he's pwning Badass. I'm just trying to have a good laugh.
It sorta sounds like you still believe in God.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Well, Should I show respect for Hitler? Of course not. Jesus/God is just the same.

I don't believe in Jesus and if you get offended by my point of view then that's your problem. You shouldn't be offended, ignore it. Fuck God.

And RUS is hilarious to me, I don't care if he's pwning himself or if he's pwning Badass. I'm just trying to have a good laugh.
So if someone swore at your mother for example, because that's their point of view, they dislike her, you would say that's okay because you respect someone else's point of view? I doubt that very much.

God is very important to most of the world's population. If you think most of the world is stupid then that's fine, it's your prerogative, but it doesn't give you the right to swear and poke fun at what they hold close to their hearts.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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So if someone swore at your mother for example, because that's their point of view, they dislike her, you would say that's okay because you respect someone else's point of view? I doubt that very much.

God is very important to most of the world's population. If you think most of the world is stupid then that's fine, it's your prerogative, but it doesn't give you the right to swear and poke fun at what they hold close to their hearts.
I wouldn't say it's okay. I would smack their mouth. You can't even compare my mother to God/Hitler/Stalin/Maradona. It's not like she's an idol but she's my family. Yeah, I know some people love God with all their heart but I think I have the right to say Jesus is a hippie because to me he was (Yeah, he existed but he's not "the son of God" since I don't believe in that :D). Probably the first hippie.

I don't think people who believe in God are stupid. I think they're brainwashed just like I was not so long ago.

There will always be people who will oppose and will insult the opposition. If I say fuck Inter maybe I'm offending an interista, I say fuck Hitler, I'm probably offending a million Nazis, fuck, even if I say fuck Maradona million of people will be offended. It's the way it is and it'll never change.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I wouldn't say it's okay. I would smack their mouth. You can't even compare my mother to God/Hitler/Stalin/Maradona. It's not like she's an idol but she's my family. Yeah, I know some people love God with all their heart but I think I have the right to say Jesus is a hippie because to me he was (Yeah, he existed but he's not "the son of God" since I don't believe in that :D). Probably the first hippie.

I don't think people who believe in God are stupid. I think they're brainwashed just like I was not so long ago.

There will always be people who will oppose and will insult the opposition. If I say fuck Inter maybe I'm offending an interista, I say fuck Hitler, I'm probably offending a million Nazis, fuck, even if I say fuck Maradona million of people will be offended. It's the way it is and it'll never change.
So there aren't any people who believe in god out of their own conviction? Everyone who believes in God is brainwashed. Thats a pretty broad generalization.
 
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So there aren't any people who believe in god out of their own conviction? Everyone who believes in God is brainwashed. Thats a pretty broad generalization.
Its not, actually. Its the truth. One if the things you're taught by your patents as a child is religion. You trust them enough to believe everything they say. And before you know it, you ardently believe in it too. Very similar to brainwashing, except that you don't need to be broken down as you're already in s submissive and receptive state.

The only reason you continue to believe in it is because you cannot end the attachment that had grown between you and god. You also don't want to disappoint your family and your community.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Its not, actually. Its the truth. One if the things you're taught by your patents as a child is religion. You trust them enough to believe everything they say. And before you know it, you ardently believe in it too. Very similar to brainwashing, except that you don't need to be broken down as you're already in s submissive and receptive state.

The only reason you continue to believe in it is because you cannot end the attachment that had grown between you and god. You also don't want to disappoint your family and your community.
You use that term loosely.

As for the second part, another broad generalization.
 

IliveForJuve

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Jan 17, 2011
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Its not, actually. Its the truth. One if the things you're taught by your patents as a child is religion. You trust them enough to believe everything they say. And before you know it, you ardently believe in it too. Very similar to brainwashing, except that you don't need to be broken down as you're already in s submissive and receptive state.

The only reason you continue to believe in it is because you cannot end the attachment that had grown between you and god. You also don't want to disappoint your family and your community.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Cheers!
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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Its not, actually. Its the truth. One if the things you're taught by your patents as a child is religion. You trust them enough to believe everything they say. And before you know it, you ardently believe in it too. Very similar to brainwashing, except that you don't need to be broken down as you're already in s submissive and receptive state.

The only reason you continue to believe in it is because you cannot end the attachment that had grown between you and god. You also don't want to disappoint your family and your community.


i think atheists are attention whores who have been neglected as kids, and feel victimized by a society that promised so much because they were told an omnipotent all powerful creature will always help them, but like the little loser kid in HS who dares not approach any chicks and blames the world for his lack of cojones, atheists throw tantrums here and there calling everyone around dumb and deluded because they actually have meaning and are not scared to 'live', see how that worked. We can go back and forth with the 2 bit generalizations/pseudo-explanations.
 
Apr 15, 2006
56,640
i think atheists are attention whores who have been neglected as kids, and feel victimized by a society that promised so much because they were told an omnipotent all powerful creature will always help them, but like the little loser kid in HS who dares not approach any chicks and blames the world for his lack of cojones, atheists throw tantrums here and there calling everyone around dumb and deluded because they actually have meaning and are not scared to 'live', see how that worked. We can go back and forth with the 2 bit generalizations/pseudo-explanations.
Be a man and refute my points.
 

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