Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (22 Viewers)

[Il Re]

Harry potter has as much claim to the truth and is as historical as bible, Koran, Vedas, greek mythology and so on....

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

No, no, no, you DO NOT know the defenition of historical fact. Its not something you choose for yourself, thats a historical fact only for you but not the rest (thats how people end up in asylums). Its needs to be proven to be a historical fact, PLEASE PLEASE differentiate historical fact and BELIEF.

You believe Jesus resurrected after his death, that he turned water to wine etc. But to say its a historical fact, you have to PROVE IT. Do you see the difference? its quite BIG, no?

I know what you are saying, and word to it.

 

[rounder]

No, no, no, you DO NOT know the defenition of historical fact. Its not something you choose for yourself, thats a historical fact only for you but not the rest (thats how people end up in asylums). Its needs to be proven to be a historical fact, PLEASE PLEASE differentiate historical fact and BELIEF.

You believe Jesus resurrected after his death, that he turned water to wine etc. But to say its a historical fact, you have to PROVE IT. Do you see the difference? its quite BIG, no?

WTF??

Ok Osman, prove that Alexander the great killed someone. It's a HISTORICAL FACT, now please prove it to me. I can't prove history, I can believe it to be true. That's all I can do.

 

[Alen]

Noah ( or is his name Utnapishtim ? ) died at the age of 950. He was 600 years old during the flood.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Kindly tell me what B.C stands for? Who's the jesus freak now?

1)

Places
British Columbia, Canada's westernmost province
Baja California, Mexico's northernmost state
Bala Cynwyd, Pennsylvania, United States
Basque Country, Land of the Basque people
Botswana, World Meteorological Organization country code 'BC'
"Bull City", a nickname for Durham, North Carolina
[edit]Educational institutions
Barnard College, a women's liberal arts college, affiliated with Columbia University, in New York, New York
Beloit College, a small liberal arts college in Beloit, Wisconsin
Benedictine College, an institution of higher education in Atchison, Kansas
Blinn College, a junior college in Brenham, Texas
Boston College, a university in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts
Brethren Christian Junior/Senior High School, a Christian High School in Huntington Beach, California
Bridgewater College, a college located in Bridgewater, Virginia
Brooklyn College, a college located in Brooklyn, New York
Benedictine Military School , formerly Benedictine College, Savannah, Georgia
[edit]Government institutions
Bureau of Corrections (Philippines), an agency of the Department of Justice of the Philippines, charged with the custody and rehabilitation of national offenders
[edit]Businesses and organizations
Blue Cross, a trade association of United States health insurance companies
Boise Cascade, a manufacturer of paper and pulp products
Brasseries du Cameroun, a brewery in Cameroon
British Council, a non-departmental public body and registered charity for cultural relations in the United Kingdom
Brooklyn Cyclones, a minor league professional baseball club
Brunswick Corporation, stock symbol for a consumer sporting goods manufacturer traded on the New York Stock Exchange
Skymark Airlines, IATA airline code 'BC'
[edit]Music
Basso Continuo, an accompaniment used in almost all genres of music in the Baroque period
BC Recordings, a record label
Body Count, rapper Ice-T's metal band
[edit]Entertainment
B.C. (comic strip), a syndicated comic strip originated by Johnny Hart
Barnabas Collins, fictional vampire from the ABC soap opera Dark Shadows
Border Crossings, a musical radio show that airs on Voice of America
The Breakfast Club, a teen-oriented dramedy released in the year 1985
Burning Crusade, an expansion to the online role-playing game World of Warcraft
Bionic Commando
[edit]Math and technology
Backward compatibility, compatibility of new product with old product
bc (Unix), "basic calculator" Unix program
NZR Bc class, a steam locomotive classification used by the New Zealand Railways Department
Buoyancy compensator, a piece of scuba diving equipment
Ballistic coefficient, a measure of air drag on a projectile, the ratio of its sectional density to its coefficient of form
Base curve radius, a parameter of a contact lens
Boundary condition, a mathematical restraint on partial differential equations
[edit]Medicine and science
Bc, the abbreviation for the orchid genus Brassocattleya
BC Powder, brand name of pain reliever
Birth control
Breast cancer
Board Certification, as in Advanced Practice Registered Nurse, Board Certified (APRN, BC)
[edit]Other
Basketball Club, in Romanian. For example BC Mures
Bliss bibliographic classification, a library cataloguing system
BookCrossing, a website which encourages leaving books in public places to be found by others
Base Camp in mountaineering

2) You are the jesus freak.

 

[Osman]

Yes Osman, I know that. There are also factual stories in the bible.

Like?

Jesus being taken and crucified is one of the more historically most probable of the bible, even if they cant pinpoint exactly his whole existence by going through history documents of the time, its highly likely a prophet like him was around at that time, and met the end that Jesus did like its told. Because alot of people met their ends like that, and men like him wasnt unheard of at the time etc.

But the parts of like him resurrecting etc. Not exactly historical fact, comprende?

 

[Il Re]

if he was 600 years old did he have normal human growth, as in by 60 years old he was an old man and by 100 years he was a decrepid weakling and then had to live 500 more years as a really old man coz that would really suck

 

[Il Re]

1)

Places
British Columbia, Canada's westernmost province
Baja California, Mexico's northernmost state
Bala Cynwyd, Pennsylvania, United States
Basque Country, Land of the Basque people
Botswana, World Meteorological Organization country code 'BC'
"Bull City", a nickname for Durham, North Carolina
[edit]Educational institutions
Barnard College, a women's liberal arts college, affiliated with Columbia University, in New York, New York
Beloit College, a small liberal arts college in Beloit, Wisconsin
Benedictine College, an institution of higher education in Atchison, Kansas
Blinn College, a junior college in Brenham, Texas
Boston College, a university in Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts
Brethren Christian Junior/Senior High School, a Christian High School in Huntington Beach, California
Bridgewater College, a college located in Bridgewater, Virginia
Brooklyn College, a college located in Brooklyn, New York
Benedictine Military School , formerly Benedictine College, Savannah, Georgia
[edit]Government institutions
Bureau of Corrections (Philippines), an agency of the Department of Justice of the Philippines, charged with the custody and rehabilitation of national offenders
[edit]Businesses and organizations
Blue Cross, a trade association of United States health insurance companies
Boise Cascade, a manufacturer of paper and pulp products
Brasseries du Cameroun, a brewery in Cameroon
British Council, a non-departmental public body and registered charity for cultural relations in the United Kingdom
Brooklyn Cyclones, a minor league professional baseball club
Brunswick Corporation, stock symbol for a consumer sporting goods manufacturer traded on the New York Stock Exchange
Skymark Airlines, IATA airline code 'BC'
[edit]Music
Basso Continuo, an accompaniment used in almost all genres of music in the Baroque period
BC Recordings, a record label
Body Count, rapper Ice-T's metal band
[edit]Entertainment
B.C. (comic strip), a syndicated comic strip originated by Johnny Hart
Barnabas Collins, fictional vampire from the ABC soap opera Dark Shadows
Border Crossings, a musical radio show that airs on Voice of America
The Breakfast Club, a teen-oriented dramedy released in the year 1985
Burning Crusade, an expansion to the online role-playing game World of Warcraft
Bionic Commando
[edit]Math and technology
Backward compatibility, compatibility of new product with old product
bc (Unix), "basic calculator" Unix program
NZR Bc class, a steam locomotive classification used by the New Zealand Railways Department
Buoyancy compensator, a piece of scuba diving equipment
Ballistic coefficient, a measure of air drag on a projectile, the ratio of its sectional density to its coefficient of form
Base curve radius, a parameter of a contact lens
Boundary condition, a mathematical restraint on partial differential equations
[edit]Medicine and science
Bc, the abbreviation for the orchid genus Brassocattleya
BC Powder, brand name of pain reliever
Birth control
Breast cancer
Board Certification, as in Advanced Practice Registered Nurse, Board Certified (APRN, BC)
[edit]Other
Basketball Club, in Romanian. For example BC Mures
Bliss bibliographic classification, a library cataloguing system
BookCrossing, a website which encourages leaving books in public places to be found by others
Base Camp in mountaineering

2) You are the jesus freak.

you forgot BIG COCK!

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

WTF??

Ok Osman, prove that Alexander the great killed someone. It's a HISTORICAL FACT, now please prove it to me. I can't prove history, I can believe it to be true. That's all I can do.

Sure you can't prove Alexander the Great killed someone, but you can read it in every history book on the planet, Jesus' HISTORICAL NONSENSE about water to wine isn't in any book but one.

Now jog on.

 

[Osman]

I can't prove history, I can believe it to be true. That's all I can do.

WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?

Someone of your immense stupidity cant possibly exist, you CANNOT believe something to be a historical fact. You just BELIEVE something, or you prove something happend, there is a quite a difference. Even if your mental acuity is beyond the level of neanderthals you should be able to make this very basic distinction.

 

[bianconero]

Once again a thread is to be hijacked by those who think of the are abusive and loud enough they've won the argument.

Well I guess if there is a god, he must sometimes wished he had worked on the seventh day too.

 

[*aca*]

this is what i "believe"

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

you forgot BIG COCK!

True...

 

[Azzurri7]

WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?

Someone of your immense stupidity cant possibly exist, you CANNOT believe something to be a historical fact. You just BELIEVE something, or you prove something happend, there is a quite a difference. Even if your mental acuity is beyond the level of neanderthals you should be able to make this very basic distinction.

How fake

 

[Alen]

WTF??

Ok Osman, prove that Alexander the great killed someone. It's a HISTORICAL FACT, now please prove it to me. I can't prove history, I can believe it to be true. That's all I can do.

Who else turned water into wine ?
Who else killed a man ?



The primary sources about Alexander killing Kleytos (spelling?) come from people who actually knew Alexander or who gathered information from men who served with Alexander. They were his contemporaries, many of them adored him. Why would they lie about him killing his friend ?

Edit: It's spelled Cleitus, i checked

 

[Bjerknes]

Noah ( or is his name Utnapishtim ? ) died at the age of 950. He was 600 years old during the flood.

 

[Osman]

How fake

He said he cant prove history, he can believe it to be true, he SERIOUSLY said that. I mean, hearing absolutely retarded shit isnt shocking you ofcourse Azzurri7, because you hear yourself think all the time so you are used to it, but he really uttered that gigantically retarded statement.

 

[Il Re]

this is what i "believe"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M

you know what i believe? shit happens

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ZiG_doWb0

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

this is what i "believe"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M

nice

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Once again a thread is to be hijacked by those who think of the are abusive and loud enough they've won the argument.

Well I guess if there is a god, he must sometimes wished he had worked on the seventh day too.

Get out.

Who else turned water into wine ?
Who else killed a man ?



The primary sources about Alexander killing Kleytos (spelling?) come from people who actually knew Alexander or who gathered information from men who served with Alexander. They were his contemporaries, many of them adored him. Why would they lie about him killing his friend ?

Edit: It's spelled Cleitus, i checked

BUT THE PROPHETS ALL KNEW JESUS!