Del Piero: a hero or a choker? (2 Viewers)
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when it comes to penalties, i think anticipation and luck are the same thing
no (human) goalkeeper could possibly have time to make the calculations and judgements based on the way a player is moving / where his eyes are looking... it's mostly gut feeling... which is also luck
the only time skill comes into penalties is when it's hit perfectly into the corner, out of reach... but then again...you could call that luck too
no (human) goalkeeper could possibly have time to make the calculations and judgements based on the way a player is moving / where his eyes are looking... it's mostly gut feeling... which is also luck
the only time skill comes into penalties is when it's hit perfectly into the corner, out of reach... but then again...you could call that luck too
Anticipation is more than luck. I watched this TV show about a University in Liverpool that tried to figure out a "calculation" or smth like that to where the penalty taker would shoot. They found out you can see how he's gonna shoot by the way his standing foot is positioned before he shoots. It the toes are angeled to the left, he's gonna shoot left, and if thea're pointing to the right he's gonna shoot right. And it is true most of the time. If a player tried to point his toes to the left side of the goal and to shoot right, he'd probably injure his knee severely.
That's pure BS. If you want to stop a penaalty, you have to be moving before he even strikes the ball, you would not have time to look how his toes are. Furthermore, it is very easy to point your toe left and shoot right, you just use the outside of your foot. There is no way to tell, with professional football player, which way they are going. Even if you could, you could never tell if they are going ot hit it hard or soft, high or low, short or wide. Their are too many variables.
Stopping penalties for a keeper has to do with three things:
1. Reaction speed-some extremely gifted individuals can actually just react quickly enough to stop most penalties, but most professional keepers can't do it
2. Reach-to reach the shots which are in the upper 90, or hit side netting, you have to have long arms, that is one reason why Brad Friedel is so good at penalties.
3. Psycology-to psych out the striker is to defeat him before he shoots.
It has nothing to do with luck, but is much more complicated then which way his toes point.
Stopping penalties for a keeper has to do with three things:
1. Reaction speed-some extremely gifted individuals can actually just react quickly enough to stop most penalties, but most professional keepers can't do it
2. Reach-to reach the shots which are in the upper 90, or hit side netting, you have to have long arms, that is one reason why Brad Friedel is so good at penalties.
3. Psycology-to psych out the striker is to defeat him before he shoots.
It has nothing to do with luck, but is much more complicated then which way his toes point.
I couldn't agree more and the bigger the game the more the nerves that overcome the player. Why can't we be appreciative of what some players have done for the team and stop knocking them for cynical reasons like they have taken the place of their heroes and trivialties like that
Also i think it was the G-O-A-T who claimed that Dp choked whilst taking a penalty against Deportive and missed but forgot to mention that the same pl;ayer opted to take a penalty against Inter at the San Siro in the 89th minute or so and scored
I wouldnt exactlly call Baggio a choker for missing THAT penalty asit took courage to take it in the first place and frankly I find it annoying that ppl give him stick for missing the penalty as if Italy deserved to be in the final in the first place, if it was not for his goals , they would never have reached there
While in other countries they tend to over praise their heroes in Italy it seems to be hip to criticise the heroes becasue for some reason these heroes are not meant to be human, they are not allowed to suffer nerves and should be perfect in every possible way
Also i think it was the G-O-A-T who claimed that Dp choked whilst taking a penalty against Deportive and missed but forgot to mention that the same pl;ayer opted to take a penalty against Inter at the San Siro in the 89th minute or so and scored
I wouldnt exactlly call Baggio a choker for missing THAT penalty asit took courage to take it in the first place and frankly I find it annoying that ppl give him stick for missing the penalty as if Italy deserved to be in the final in the first place, if it was not for his goals , they would never have reached there
While in other countries they tend to over praise their heroes in Italy it seems to be hip to criticise the heroes becasue for some reason these heroes are not meant to be human, they are not allowed to suffer nerves and should be perfect in every possible way