People forget how Trez was after just one season of injuries, trust me it's a matter of time till we see DP - Trez as our strikers in the formation list. No disrespect to Amauri or IQ but Trez = class
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Completely agree and in PES or FIFA terms if each are say and 85 overall when they play together they make eachother look like 90's. Lame explanation but basically with them both on the field they look brilliant together. By the way if you dont think so look at the numbers from the year before last when they started every game together. Im pretty sure we had the top two leadin goalscorers and it was wuite funny on the last match day to see the friendly competition to see who would win it. After DP got one ahead he kapt trying to set him up. Together they are pure Brilliance
Trezeguet is world class as a finisher in the box. He also has a beautiful habit of ghosting in goal scoring positions and is a constant threat in the air...Iaquinta has more heart and strength, Del Piero more flair and control, Amauri...more hair. His dribbling is poor, creativity lacking, determination questionable...but...his ability to put the ball in the net is far more potent than ANY of our other strikers. And it is for that reason that whilst he is on our books, I would like to see him starting.
We have a world class keeper (Buffon), world class centre back Chiellini (rough, but the talent is there, and now the guidance is there in Canna), world class defensive midfield (Momo), potential world class deep lying destroyer cum playmaker (Melo), world class attacking midfielder (Diego) and a world class finisher in Trezeguet.
those are the players whose technique demands that they play in our first team. Because all of them can do something better than most other players in their positions.
Diego, Giovinco, Trezeguet...as a front trio, would be amazing to see given a few games to gel. Pace, Magic, Flair, Aerial potency, Clinical finishing....
I hope Trez wins a starting place. I am less bothered about Del Piero, as while he still has at times, delightful to watch ability, he is losing his pace and power far more quickly than trezeguet.
We have a world class keeper (Buffon), world class centre back Chiellini (rough, but the talent is there, and now the guidance is there in Canna), world class defensive midfield (Momo), potential world class deep lying destroyer cum playmaker (Melo), world class attacking midfielder (Diego) and a world class finisher in Trezeguet.
those are the players whose technique demands that they play in our first team. Because all of them can do something better than most other players in their positions.
Diego, Giovinco, Trezeguet...as a front trio, would be amazing to see given a few games to gel. Pace, Magic, Flair, Aerial potency, Clinical finishing....
I hope Trez wins a starting place. I am less bothered about Del Piero, as while he still has at times, delightful to watch ability, he is losing his pace and power far more quickly than trezeguet.
I have the greatest respect for Del Piero. But physically he is deteriorating, much like Nedved was this last season. Time catches up with every man...And while for a goalkeeper, and centrebacks (when playing next to someone younger and faster), a footballer can maintain a high level of output well into their 30s if they keep themselves physically well conditioned, for an attacker, its a different story. Every team needs pace in attack, and Del Piero's pace is becoming slothful. ESPECIALLY if he is playing in attack with Trezeguet, who while faster the DP is still no speedmerchant.
Giving Giovinco a chance in DP's position gives us the pace, that every other front line of a decent club has in some form or another. Pace is essential, not a luxury. As when it comes to high quality man markers, pace can often be the only way to get into a goal scoring opportunity. Yes, DP can still get past opponents, often with beautiful skill, but nowadays they have the chance to have another bite at the cherry, because he lacks the legs to get away from defenders, once beaten.
Giving Giovinco a chance in DP's position gives us the pace, that every other front line of a decent club has in some form or another. Pace is essential, not a luxury. As when it comes to high quality man markers, pace can often be the only way to get into a goal scoring opportunity. Yes, DP can still get past opponents, often with beautiful skill, but nowadays they have the chance to have another bite at the cherry, because he lacks the legs to get away from defenders, once beaten.
all that from a pre-season friendly, huh?
The deterioration in DP's physical presence and capabilities is crystal clear to anyone who has seen him play for the duration of his Juve career. Not many top class teams have a 34 year old as a starter in attack....Maybe in defence, or in goal, as I said before, but not up front.
So, no, Ahmed. your comment makes no sense...
well then my dear friend, let me do an statistical analysis of Del Piero's performances over the past 5 seasons:
Season Total Appearances Total Goals
04-05 41 17
05-06 45 20
06-07 37 23
07-08 41 24
08-09 43 21
there is no denying that age does get to even the best of players, but the phenomenon that is Alessandro Del Piero continues to defy all the odds and expectations of all his critics, and keeps on delivering
so my friend, in the case of Il Capitano, your point really doesn't stand up to reason...I made the mistake of assuming your analysis of Ale was from the recent friendly against Nancy, where Ale once again showed great stamina and I daresay speed which was unbelievable for a 34 year old
Season Total Appearances Total Goals
04-05 41 17
05-06 45 20
06-07 37 23
07-08 41 24
08-09 43 21
there is no denying that age does get to even the best of players, but the phenomenon that is Alessandro Del Piero continues to defy all the odds and expectations of all his critics, and keeps on delivering
so my friend, in the case of Il Capitano, your point really doesn't stand up to reason...I made the mistake of assuming your analysis of Ale was from the recent friendly against Nancy, where Ale once again showed great stamina and I daresay speed which was unbelievable for a 34 year old
Believe me, Ahmed, I would like to see DP grab another 20+ goal tally this season. But I don't want us to perservere with il capitano when we could be giving Giovinco a chance in attack.
As you have so wonderfully illustrated, statistically speaking, DP remains a useful player. However, we have Giovinco, who, it may be said, is more suited to the position now occupied by Diego, but at the same time, he can be used in DP's position. He brings pace and invention. Not invention yet on the level of DP, but pace nonetheless and precocious flair, which I am longing to see brought into our starting XI.
My point stands up to the reason of watching DP beat players then not having the legs to escape their second attempt to win the ball or to block his path to goal.
YES, he remains useful, but I personally love the idea of mixing Giovinco with Trez and Diego. If we can do that in a 4-2-3-1...wicked. if not, he will have to steal some playing time from DP. Which would not be a bad thing as far as i am concerned.
I have always adored DP. And I am sure he will score plenty of goals this season, but we do have a younger version, who has the potential to reach similar if not higher levels of the game IF GIVEN THE CHANCES...
As you have so wonderfully illustrated, statistically speaking, DP remains a useful player. However, we have Giovinco, who, it may be said, is more suited to the position now occupied by Diego, but at the same time, he can be used in DP's position. He brings pace and invention. Not invention yet on the level of DP, but pace nonetheless and precocious flair, which I am longing to see brought into our starting XI.
My point stands up to the reason of watching DP beat players then not having the legs to escape their second attempt to win the ball or to block his path to goal.
YES, he remains useful, but I personally love the idea of mixing Giovinco with Trez and Diego. If we can do that in a 4-2-3-1...wicked. if not, he will have to steal some playing time from DP. Which would not be a bad thing as far as i am concerned.
I have always adored DP. And I am sure he will score plenty of goals this season, but we do have a younger version, who has the potential to reach similar if not higher levels of the game IF GIVEN THE CHANCES...
Alex the great!!!!!
Big numbers for his 34 years old 08-09 43apps 21goals
who else is playing now with the same age with that numbers?? i really hope he can make it to the world cup 2010
as for trez i hope he make a great performance next season and stupid domenech get sacked , both del piero and trez playing their last world cup!
Big numbers for his 34 years old 08-09 43apps 21goals
who else is playing now with the same age with that numbers?? i really hope he can make it to the world cup 2010
as for trez i hope he make a great performance next season and stupid domenech get sacked , both del piero and trez playing their last world cup!
I see what you're trying to say, but that's also coz Del Piero has a heavier workload for 90 minutes than Trezeguet does. Without accounting for their 4 year age gap. His game, when in decline will visibly show more than Trezeguet's, given that Trez's game is based more on instinct and positioning. And that's why when comparing the two, some people may feel it's justfied dropping DP viz a viz Trez - but the truth of the matter is, till that happens we shouldn't conclude how the season would go. For all you know it might come down to the Del Piero - Trez telepathic magic winning us something significant this term.
They have shown a wonderful understanding in the past, and there is a chance it could still prove extremely valuable now...Its a decent point you made, Baggio, regarding the workload. Trez can do nothing for 89 minutes then pop up in the box and poke the winner past the keeper, whereas in that same game, DP has probably run a few km.
I don't see it ever as a choice between Trez and DP. As they occupy different sections of the attack. Every team needs a goalscorer, and that is the position Trez aims for, against Iaquinta, and Amauri. DP is the other section, the flair, creativity, dribbling, invention...and who has he got to challenge him in this section??? Just Giovinco...
I don't see it ever as a choice between Trez and DP. As they occupy different sections of the attack. Every team needs a goalscorer, and that is the position Trez aims for, against Iaquinta, and Amauri. DP is the other section, the flair, creativity, dribbling, invention...and who has he got to challenge him in this section??? Just Giovinco...
Yep, no doubt, his heir and natural contender is Gio. Although I have a sneaky feeling, DP might be played out of position to accomodate Amauri and Trezeguet at times when Diego isnt available, while keeping with the 4-3-1-2, as we're seeing in this pre-season. I dont think Ferrara's doing this just to get the team accustomed to the 1-2 up front. I think somewhere he's also getting an idea of how the three work in tandem. I think Del Piero's going to rely more on his vision this season than in the recent past, especially with a long season ahead - which is where he could work behind the strikers as well. I could be wrong though because he never enjoyed that role with the Nazionale.