Danilo - RB - Real Madrid (3 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Someone reminds me the price zaza went for

To EPL? It was like... 5mln loan + obligation for 20 + some bonuses.

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[noussa]

No.

I do think one of the reason is to make Sandro happy.

 

[Gigiventus]

He was only there for 2 years and they used a youth product from their academy there, I'm not worried about his form as we talk about different leagues, different tactics. 20-30m gets you Lemina-ish players, depth and rotation players...his price is good for me.

Carvajal perma benching Danilo has nothing to do with him being a youth product. Danilo was even preferred at first because of the hype, but Carvajal performed like 10 times the player and benched him.

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He was signed for 30mln at Real. And he choked there. We're signing a risky player for over 20mln PLUS very heavy wages. Of course price isn't more than good for us. It's a huge question mark.

Yes, big gamble. Much more of a risky gamble than any other fullback we've been linked to.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Gigiventus is right. It was total BS to see Carvajal benched at Real because he always played good. It was Benitez (?) who used Danilo as a RB for no reason whatsoever cause Carvajal was a lot better on the field. Without a shadow of doubt.

 

[Ramin]

Carvajal is easily the best right back in the game these days.

 

[Dostoevsky]

You know what annoys me?

When we were linked with Darmian people laughed at those rumors. Literally. Their main argument was how he was/is shit at Manchester United. Not just that, but everyone fails to mention how amazing he was at Torino. I was pissed when we didn't sign him but I was letting it go cause Licht was giving us good performances. However what Darmian offered on the pitch was simply great and I thought he'd revive here as imo he's just one of the players that faded away in EPL.

Then Danilo rumors started popping up. Fine. Rumors. People started fapping over his Porto performances like he was second only to God. Yet almost everyone closed/closes an eye when it comes to his horrible display in Madrid. And so many want to see him here while only mentioning Porto days.

It makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Xperd]

Because the board probably believes Danilo if revived will offer a higher level of quality than Darmian. Darmian is a 'safe' signing who would give you the minimum required performance which would be solid displays but nothing special or out of the ordinary but Danilo if revived could potentially be devastating for us. It's a risk, probably much riskier than Darmian but also the chance of reward is much higher than Darmian.

 

[Zacheryah]

Because the board probably believes Danilo if revived will offer a higher level of quality than Darmian. Darmian is a 'safe' signing who would give you the minimum required performance which would be solid displays but nothing special or out of the ordinary but Danilo if revived could potentially be devastating for us. It's a risk, probably much riskier than Darmian but also the chance of reward is much higher than Darmian.

And whats the worst that can happen ?

Last season Alves was either injured or inferior to Licht before newyear and a good part after.


We'd fall back onto Licht and make a january purchase if neccecary

 

[Dostoevsky]

Because the board probably believes Danilo if revived will offer a higher level of quality than Darmian. Darmian is a 'safe' signing who would give you the minimum required performance which would be solid displays but nothing special or out of the ordinary but Danilo if revived could potentially be devastating for us. It's a risk, probably much riskier than Darmian but also the chance of reward is much higher than Darmian.

I understand that. And it makes sense. But people shouldn't shit on Darmian because they want Danilo for literally same reasons -- which is revival.

Also, if both at peak, I wouldn't say difference is that big. Danilo was good at Porto, yeah, but Darmian was also great at Torino.

 

[Ramin]

Danilo could potentially be another Isla. How much did we pay for him?

 

[Dostoevsky]

And whats the worst that can happen ?

Last season Alves was either injured or inferior to Licht before newyear and a good part after.


We'd fall back onto Licht and make a january purchase if neccecary

Us spending 20mln and offering 5mln wages which make him one of the top earners in our team, so, if he flops, we'd be stuck with him for years to come. Relying on Licht means nothing because he offers 20% of the old self. I'd actually try to get rid of him if anything.

Also, there's no way we'd make a january purchase, because you only buy in january if you want clubs to milk you. Not just that, but clubs are unwilling to sell at that point, so you're stuck with what you have. And another thing, we surely wouldn't spend any money... on anyone... after giving this fee for Danilo and these wages to him.

 

[Xperd]

I understand that. And it makes sense. But people shouldn't shit on Darmian because they want Danilo for literally same reasons -- which is revival.

Also, if both at peak, I wouldn't say difference is that big. Danilo was good at Porto, yeah, but Darmian was also great at Torino.

Danilo on his best form is comfortably better than Darmian. He was one of Europe's best fullbacks before he moved to Madrid for a world record fee for a RB. Darmian hardly was in the conversation. He was one of the best fullbacks in Serie A though , if it means something.

Danilo was higher rated than Sandro at Porto as well.

 

[Gigiventus]

I understand that. And it makes sense. But people shouldn't $#@! on Darmian because they want Danilo for literally same reasons -- which is revival.

Also, if both at peak, I wouldn't say difference is that big. Danilo was good at Porto, yeah, but Darmian was also great at Torino.

Completely agree.

I actually would prefer Darmian, he performs a lot better when both are at their worst (him and Danilo) and not that different when both are at their best.

It seems that people forget how good he was for Torino. Its what prompted United to go for him in the first place.

If we have someone like Sandro on the left (or Spinazzola as well) then it doesn't hurt to have someone as defensively solid as Darmian. He is tactically adept and has played in a 3 man defense with our backline already. It made sense. Its basically that "Barzagli role" but played with an actual right back.

Anyway, I hope that if Danilo comes he can be great.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Completely agree.

I actually would prefer Darmian, he performs a lot better when both are at their worst (him and Danilo) and not that different when both are at their best.

It seems that people forget how good he was for Torino. Its what prompted United to go for him in the first place.

If we have someone like Sandro on the left (or Spinazzola as well) then it doesn't hurt to have someone as defensively solid as Darmian. He is tactically adept and has played in a 3 man defense with our backline already. It made sense. Its basically that "Barzagli role" but played with an actual right back.

Anyway, I hope that if Danilo comes he can be great.

Anyways, if anything, I really hope we do revive Danilo's career here.

 

[Gigiventus]

We are gonna need a second Mandzukic if our fullbacks are Sandro-Danilo and our midfielders are Khedira-Pjanic

 

[Dostoevsky]

We are gonna need a second Mandzukic if our fullbacks are Sandro-Danilo and our midfielders are Khedira-Pjanic

We're not gonna play Khedira in our starting lineup, unless we switch to 3 man midfield.

More like... Matuidi - Pjanic.

 

[Zacheryah]

We are gonna need a second Mandzukic if our fullbacks are Sandro-Danilo and our midfielders are Khedira-Pjanic

Only against strong teams, but thats why we are getting a physical DM

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We're not gonna play Khedira in our starting lineup, unless we switch to 3 man midfield.

More like... Matuidi - Pjanic.

And its probably that guy

 

[Sjaban]

Carvajal is easily the best right back in the game these days.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I understand that. And it makes sense. But people shouldn't shit on Darmian because they want Danilo for literally same reasons -- which is revival.

Also, if both at peak, I wouldn't say difference is that big. Danilo was good at Porto, yeah, but Darmian was also great at Torino.

The difference is huge. Out of Neymar's Santos generation Danilo was the third best talented and promising player of that era after Neymar and Ganso. He's truly skilled beyond anything Damian can do.

However it is a risk, one that we're willing to take. I think there's nobody better to awake the beast in him than us. We know how to set up defenses like no one else and with Allegri's guidance this guy will learn how to do it our way.

If said player isn't injured I often find confidence to be the number one thing to get someone in form. A mediocre confident player will have his day but can only go so far with the lack of talent. Now, a confident talented player...

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Having said that, Alex Sandro GOT to stay.

 

[Dostoevsky]

The difference is huge. Out of Neymar's Santos generation Danilo was the third best talented and promising player of that era after Neymar and Ganso. He's truly skilled beyond anything Damian can do.

However it is a risk, one that we're willing to take. I think there's nobody better to awake the beast in him than us. We know how to set up defenses like no one else and with Allegri's guidance this guy will learn how to do it our way.

If said player isn't injured I often find confidence to be the number one thing to get someone in form. A mediocre confident player will have his day but can only go so far with the lack of talent. Now, a confident talented player...

I still think Darmian's performances at Torino were/are underrated here.

But I'll trust your words, eventhough I never liked Ganso to begin with