Cristiano Ronaldo (227 Viewers)

Juvellino

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2015
7,146
Ronaldo is not the problem. Instead of signing “free” mercenary midfielders with high wages we could have signed Barella or Sensi for example. We could have addressed the fullback depth etc. Seemingly small mistakes compounded over and over is the problem.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,888
He had the highest scoring Juve season of all time last year, this year he's got 15 in 14 league games. If he's putting up those numbers in a dysfunctional team with a clueless coach, imagine what he'll do in a proper system. We'd be fighting relegation without those goals. He's scored all our CL knockout goals since he came too.

The finger should be pointed at guys like, Bonucci Arthur, Dybala and Rabiot who at this rate are stealing money from this club with their form.
I'm not pointing the finger at him. And yes, I know he has scored quite a few goals. And he sure as shit isn't worst performing player we have.

But we all know we were a better team & achieved better results before he joined. There's no need to debate that, as those are simple facts. I'm not saying that's his fault, but I really do wonder what people think. Does his output justify the finances of the deal?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,055
I'm not pointing the finger at him. And yes, I know he has scored quite a few goals. And he sure as shit isn't worst performing player we have.

But we all know we were a better team & achieved better results before he joined. There's no need to debate that, as those are simple facts. I'm not saying that's his fault, but I really do wonder what people think. Does his output justify the finances of the deal?
There had been a lot of failed transfers that led to our gradual decline and ofc change of managers. How much did we pay for Berna, Cancelo, what kind of wage are we giving to Rabiot, Ramsey, was it wise to exchange Pjanic with Arthur? I feel Ronaldo is the last transfer we should point our fingers at. We made a 60m deal for Chiesa, Kulusevski, etc so money obviously isnt the issue, yet. I dont see how signing Ronaldo prevented us to sign Barella for instance. How much did inter pay for him? Tonali is on loan at Milan, why not at Juve? Etc...
 
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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,988
Oh you so sure about that? because we are definitely showing signs of getting the hang of things right?

or you say that because.... "we are juventus"?
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,932
Our midfield issues have existed long before we signed Ronaldo. Using the Ronaldo deal as an excuse for "bad finances" and not being able to have a proper midfield is being too forgiving with the management of this club.

These issues should've been addressed 4-5 seasons ago. Not now or a year ago.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
What we need to do is stop signing free players for starting positions. They end up being free for a very objective reason. No truly valuable player ever is free.

A Pirlo/Pogba is a rare exception that happens once in a generation.

Free transfers only for depth from now on.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,777
He's the GOAT and I'm happy to see him in our shirt, but I sure get the feeling we shot ourselves in the foot finance wise and it lead to us making compromises in other parts of the squad.

inb4 he pays for himself.
we had money even after signing ronaldo, we just made some shitty choices, besides some good ones. for the sake of comparison, barella costs inda ~18m per season, bennacer costs less than 6m, fabian ruiz is around 8m, gross salary and amortization included. ramsey and rabiot cost us ~26-27m combined, and these are our "free" signings. add bonucci (~19m), arthur (~23m), and that's almost 70m per season spent on expensive players playing below par. and there are all those rookies we spent a smaller fortune on and didn't even wear the jersey once (pellegrini, mandragora, gori, romero). not to mention that we had max and maurice on our payroll at the same time, and we still pay maurice some millions until some loser club gets him off of our payroll. imagine spending that money wisely by either getting one or two quality mids instead of multiple market opportunities, or just by listening to allegri and getting rid of the dead weight instead of firing him.

we're simply the new inda anno 2010: we're overpaying players and their agents massively. it doesn't look as bad as this when we're winning, but this season, we're unfortunately not.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,888
ramsey and rabiot cost us ~26-27m combined, and these are our "free" signings. add bonucci (~19m), arthur (~23m), and that's almost 70m per season spent on expensive players playing below par.
This is indeed a major issue.
Essentially, you're spending 70m each year on players who shouldn't even cost you a third of that amount.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,034
Ronaldo is not the problem. Instead of signing “free” mercenary midfielders with high wages we could have signed Barella or Sensi for example. We could have addressed the fullback depth etc. Seemingly small mistakes compounded over and over is the problem.
Sensi? Lol. He'd injure himself in our parking lot at every comeback.
 

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