Cristiano Ronaldo (23 Viewers)

james95

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Sep 2, 2018
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I disagree, Zlatan was the catalyst for Milan’s revival when he arrived last January. They were hopeless in the first half of the season and one of the best teams in the second.
Also, they have been winning without Zlatan this season, but their performances without him are lackluster.
You're right, their renaissance coincided with when Zlatan joined the club but they've still had several imperious displays without him on the pitch. They've looked more lacklustre recently because they're missing a number of other key players, not just Ibra.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Can't believe that we rely on this guy so much. It's like he is a 5-time Ballon d'Or winner, 5-time CL winner, record goalscorer, who gets paid the same as the entire Udinese squad, or something.
 

JuveJay

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For the Pelé comparisons, which I can see his social media team and agent seem to enjoy, you have to bear in mind that Santos played/play in the Paulista state championship. When Pelé played there it was a 20-team championship of all state teams across different national divisions. So it would be something like Juve and Ronaldo playing in a 38-game championship that looks something like this (I've included the regions of Piemonte, Lombardia, Liguria and Valle d'Aosta to replicate the size/team density of São Paulo - I think I'm being generous to Pelé):

Juventus
Milan
Inter
Atalanta
Sampdoria
Torino
Genoa
Spezia
Monza
Cremonese
Brescia
Novara
Virtus Entella
Varese
Alessandria
AlbinoLeffe
Feralpisalò
Mantova
Lecco
Pro Patria

Imagine how many goals GOAT would score in such a championship.
 

Akshen

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Aug 27, 2010
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Yeah, its stupid. Pele can say all he want, but Ronaldo and Messi are uncomparable to any of the players in the history. They are two GOATs, football has changed its much more challenging and these guys are on another planet. For me its unbelievable that Ronaldo and Messi were able to beat Pele's records in current circumstances and it just shows that there wont be players like them for a long long time.
 
May 25, 2019
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Yeah, its stupid. Pele can say all he want, but Ronaldo and Messi are uncomparable to any of the players in the history. They are two GOATs, football has changed its much more challenging and these guys are on another planet. For me its unbelievable that Ronaldo and Messi were able to beat Pele's records in current circumstances and it just shows that there wont be players like them for a long long time.
What did Pele say?
 

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