Cristiano Ronaldo (193 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

I bet we’d be a better team without him, like we were before he came along.You can tell all the players have to walk on eggshells around Lord Cristiano. I think it’s hilarious that the only guy hes made friends with is the human mascot that poses the most minimal threat to his shine.

We were better as a team before he came, and we'll probably be better as a team after he leaves. Messi, for all of his pussyfag performances with Argentina, is less of a liability at club level than Ronaldo. You need to build around him, but I feel he's more willing to make sacrifices and adjust. With Ronaldo, I feel the whole team has to/tries to cater to him and that negatively impacts our fluidity and overall play. If we look at some of the games he didn't feature in, you'll see our link up play and team dynamics are better. However, it's understandable that when you have Ronaldo, you should play through him and herein lies the dilemma.

He has been immense for us - the results haven't, especially in the CL. Of course it's not all on him, but he must shoulder some of the responsibility. He was brought in to help us win in Europe, but ironically our results have regressed.

And still we have more faith in Princess Dybala and moody Morata

Princess Dybala and Moody Morata are not 37 years old and earning 30+ million.

 

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[Adrian]

Without him we would have a totally different squad, it's impossible to know where we would be with an extra ~€280M to spend over the past 3 years.

Who knows...who was available?? Who could predict covid?

Still scored 100 goals in 3 seasons...under pirlo and sarri we may have been worse off without him.

He won't leave this summer..he will walk for free. Lets just hope he helps get us far into the CL, and we recoup some cash to continue to build for the future.

Moreso, let's hope he can influence the younger players to be hard working and as determined as he is because he is a born winner...and if that can rub off on the younger group it will make this team a shitload better in the future.

 

[juve123]

We were better as a team before he came, and we'll probably be better as a team after he leaves. Messi, for all of his pussyfag performances with Argentina, is less of a liability at club level than Ronaldo. You need to build around him, but I feel he's more willing to make sacrifices and adjust. With Ronaldo, I feel the whole team has to/tries to cater to him and that negatively impacts our fluidity and overall play. If we look at some of the games he didn't feature in, you'll see our link up play and team dynamics are better. However, it's understandable that when you have Ronaldo, you should play through him and herein lies the dilemma.

He has been immense for us - the results haven't, especially in the CL. Of course it's not all on him, but he must shoulder some of the responsibility. He was brought in to help us win in Europe, but ironically our results have regressed.



Princess Dybala and Moody Morata are not 37 years old and earning 30+ million.

So what if he is 37 years he is still scoring and performing better than Princess Dybala and moody Morata

 

[Bianconero81]

So what if he is 37 years he is still scoring and performing better than Princess Dybala and moody Morata

We're worse as a team with him. These are facts. I don't care about his individual numbers.

He's getting paid an insane amount of money, but as a team we have regressed. Performances and results in Europe and Serie A clearly indicate that. You can't argue that. Ronaldo, as part of that team, is somewhat responsible.

Fortunately, Allegri is back. I don't think he gives a shit about egos and the fact that Ronaldo's contract is expiring will make his job easier. The last two clowns we had coaching us prioritized making sure Ronaldo was appeased - they were too afraid to bench or substitute him. With Allegri, I doubt that becomes an issue.

 

[Siamak]

We were better as a team before he came, and we'll probably be better as a team after he leaves. Messi, for all of his pussyfag performances with Argentina, is less of a liability at club level than Ronaldo. You need to build around him, but I feel he's more willing to make sacrifices and adjust. With Ronaldo, I feel the whole team has to/tries to cater to him and that negatively impacts our fluidity and overall play. If we look at some of the games he didn't feature in, you'll see our link up play and team dynamics are better. However, it's understandable that when you have Ronaldo, you should play through him and herein lies the dilemma.

He has been immense for us - the results haven't, especially in the CL. Of course it's not all on him, but he must shoulder some of the responsibility. He was brought in to help us win in Europe, but ironically our results have regressed.



Princess Dybala and Moody Morata are not 37 years old and earning 30+ million.

Dybala 32 goals since 2018
Morata 51 goals since 2018(20 goals for juve and 31 goals for both of chelsea and atletico madrid)
Ronaldo 101 goals since 2018

dybala+morata=83
Ronaldo=101

 

[Bianconero81]

Dybala 32 goals since 2018
Morata 51 goals since 2018(20 goals for juve and 31 goals for both of chelsea and atletico madrid)
Ronaldo 101 goals since 2018

dybala+morata=83
Ronaldo=101

Simple maths doesn't equate team success Siamak. We'd still score goals without Ronaldo. And before 2018? We reached 2 CL Finals in 3 seasons. Since Ronaldo joined us? Not even a single semi final appearance.

 

[rainhard]

When goals does not bring you title there is something missing, he play for himself not for the club
He does not care if we win or not, he just care for his goals tally while collecting extraordinary paycheck from us

I prefer player that only score 15 goals a season in all competition and bring you scudetto, UCL(a season before that) and Toyota Cup
Winning is the only thing that matters, not you scoring goals

 

[Bianconero81]

CR was very good under Allegri. We finished scudetto till Christmas. He sent us through against Atletico, scored against Ajax in both legs. The Cancelo brain fart f’ed it up.

Your post confirms the actual mistake- letting Allegri go. CR was never the problem for this team.

I'm not saying he's the problem, but for 30+ million in wages, he definitely shares some of the responsibility for our failures.

Again, we were fine before he joined, and we'll probably be even better once he leaves. It's a team sport. Look at how the CL and Euros were won just these past few months.

The team is bigger and more important than any one individual, even if that individual happens to be Ronaldo.

 

[Ronn]

When goals does not bring you title there is something missing, he play for himself not for the club
He does not care if we win or not, he just care for his goals tally while collecting extraordinary paycheck from us

I prefer player that only score 15 goals a season in all competition and bring you scudetto, UCL(a season before that) and Toyota Cup
Winning is the only thing that matters, not you scoring goals

That’s some nonsense. Does he enjoys losing? The feeling when somebody is celebrating on the field and that’s not you or your teammates.
You can’t achieve what Ronaldo achieved without intense hatred of losing, and trying to be on the winning side all the time.

 

[rainhard]

I'm not saying he's the problem, but for 30+ million in wages, he definitely shares some of the responsibility for our failures.

Again, we were fine before he joined, and we'll probably be even better once he leaves. It's a team sport. Look at how the CL and Euros were won just these past few months.

The team is bigger and more important than any one individual, even if that individual happens to be Ronaldo.

Let's just say he is not the player that we need to progress further 3 years ago. But our management want him and the opportunity is there, and money is there according their calculation (minimum semifinal or better in UCL). But they miscalculated by far (especially they can't predict covid)

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That’s some nonsense. Does he enjoys losing? The feeling when somebody is celebrating on the field and that’s not you or your teammates.
You can’t achieve what Ronaldo achieved without intense hatred of losing, and trying to be on the winning side all the time.

He does not enjoy winning when he does not score. That is the fact solid prove

 

[Ronn]

Let's just say he is not the player that we need to progress further 3 years ago. But our management want him and the opportunity is there, and money is there according their calculation (minimum semifinal or better in UCL). But they miscalculated by far (especially they can't predict covid)

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He does not enjoy winning when he does not score. That is the fact solid prove

I’m sure he hates losing more.

 

[Siamak]

Simple maths doesn't equate team success Siamak. We'd still score goals without Ronaldo. And before 2018? We reached 2 CL Finals in 3 seasons. Since Ronaldo joined us? Not even a single semi final appearance.

we have had pogba, pirlo, marchisio and vidal for those finals and remember ronaldo won 3 CL with R.madrid and he scored all the goals in the previous editions of champions league knockout stages. He cannot deliver every time. Its not a movie.
BTW, signing of Ronaldo was not a clever decision by Juve, as he was aging at that time, but you just can't blame him for Juve's downfall. The manager and midfield are 2 places majorly responsible for that, whereas, Ronaldo has already scored 100 goals for the club, a lot of them being very useful.

 

[rainhard]

we have had pogba, pirlo, marchisio and vidal for those finals and remember ronaldo won 3 CL with R.madrid and he scored all the goals in the previous editions of champions league knockout stages. He cannot deliver every time. Its not a movie.
BTW, signing of Ronaldo was not a clever decision by Juve, as he was aging at that time, but you just can't blame him for Juve's downfall. The manager and midfield are 2 places majorly responsible for that, whereas, Ronaldo has already scored 100 goals for the club, a lot of them being very useful.

I believe if that money we spent on him is spend better on other areas, we will have a better depth right now in every areas and still getting the same or better result. Probably Allegri never left us , and we continue for 10th scudetto and at least getting 1 UCL finals. If I can choose where to spend that money instead, I will choose Frenkie De Jong as our big transfer that year and built our team around him

 

[Arcticdaly]

Man there is such bad rubbish takes you have to read in here.

He scored every single one of are CL knockout goals bar the porto tie. He was every bit as good as he's madrid form in the first CL under allegri.

"He's goals dont bring us league titles" we won the league in he's first two years here then we brought in a guy that never managed a sunday league kids team down the park and we barely finished 4th and It was Ronaldo goals vs udinese that literally got us top four, if didnt score that header at the end at top 4 was gone.

He was so overplayed last year because of Morata from dipped and that weird illness and because Dybala was out missing as usual only danilo played more mins than him last year but he did it and gets no respect for for being fit and available all the time at he's age.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

we have had pogba, pirlo, marchisio and vidal for those finals and remember ronaldo won 3 CL with R.madrid and he scored all the goals in the previous editions of champions league knockout stages. He cannot deliver every time. Its not a movie.
BTW, signing of Ronaldo was not a clever decision by Juve, as he was aging at that time, but you just can't blame him for Juve's downfall. The manager and midfield are 2 places majorly responsible for that, whereas, Ronaldo has already scored 100 goals for the club, a lot of them being very useful.

I remember we trolled the fuck out of Siamak on his first year here, look at him now.

So proud of our boy




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[rainhard]

Man there is such bad rubbish takes you have to read in here.

He scored every single one of are CL knockout goals bar the porto tie. He was every bit as good as he's madrid form in the first CL under allegri.

"He's goals dont bring us league titles" we won the league in he's first two years here then we brought in a guy that never managed a sunday league kids team down the park and we barely finished 4th and It was Ronaldo goals vs udinese that literally got us top four, if didnt score that header at the end at top 4 was gone.

He was so overplayed last year because of Morata from dipped and that weird illness and because Dybala was out missing as usual only Danillio played more mins than him last year but he did it and gets no respect for for being fit and available all the time at he's age.

Immobile is a 30 goals scorer too but he dont deliver titles for Lazio so he is on the same level on Immobile too for us bar the ego LOL

 

[Siamak]

I believe if that money we spent on him is spend better on other areas, we will have a better depth right now in every areas and still getting the same or better result. Probably Allegri never left us , and we continue for 10th scudetto and at least getting 1 UCL finals. If I can choose where to spend that money instead, I will choose Frenkie De Jong as our big transfer that year and built our team around him

Clearly Allegri didn't fail, Deluded Juventus management is so desperate for UCL they want an instant change and instant trophy.

 

[rainhard]

Clearly Allegri didn't fail, Deluded Juventus management is so desperate for UCL they want an instant change and instant trophy.

They need more patience, they falsely thinking that one superstar can change our path in UCL as we already to big for domestic league
But the financial downside is really hurt us, hell we can get Mbappe that year with that kind of money and he still has 10+ years ahead of him

 

[Cerval]

Man there is such bad rubbish takes you have to read in here.

He scored every single one of are CL knockout goals bar the porto tie. He was every bit as good as he's madrid form in the first CL under allegri.

"He's goals dont bring us league titles" we won the league in he's first two years here then we brought in a guy that never managed a sunday league kids team down the park and we barely finished 4th and It was Ronaldo goals vs udinese that literally got us top four, if didnt score that header at the end at top 4 was gone.

He was so overplayed last year because of Morata from dipped and that weird illness and because Dybala was out missing as usual only Danillio played more mins than him last year but he did it and gets no respect for for being fit and available all the time at he's age.

He was incredible in CL only in the first season. Against Porto, Chiesa outshined him in both legs while he earns more than him by at least a factor 6. Against Lyon he scored a goal only when the tie was over if I remember correctly and contributed nothing otherwise apart from missed sitters.

The goal with him was to win the CL, if the goal changes to put it in against the Crotones of this world, then get a striker in the Lukaku mould save the 60 millions in gross wage we're losing per year which hinders the FINANCES of this club

 

[Siamak]

I believe if that money we spent on him is spend better on other areas, we will have a better depth right now in every areas and still getting the same or better result. Probably Allegri never left us , and we continue for 10th scudetto and at least getting 1 UCL finals. If I can choose where to spend that money instead, I will choose Frenkie De Jong as our big transfer that year and built our team around him

Name a player in juve who has consistently performed at high level everyweek?
we should have bought at least 2 MLF and Forward imo.