Cristiano Giuntoli (85 Viewers)

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,609
I judge about facts and here they are:

1. We have sold our best young talents for small money.
2. We have offloaded some of our squad players for decent money.
3. We have suddenly ousted many players from the squad making it almost impossible to sell them now. Chiesa as one of the best Italian talents in last 10 years included.
4. In this Mercato we have signed one maybe two quality players worth of Juve shirt.
5. We have almost no quality wingers for the formation coach uses and meanwhile we brough in a fourth GK.
6. We are thin in almost every department and don't have the quality core of the squad and all their subs for 3+ competitions we will play in. And BTW Serie A starts next week.

Those are the facts. You can distort them all you want, but that's the 2/10 right there bro.
1. The young talents that you guys keep bashing for not being good enough?
2. Yes we have. Infact better than expected.
3. Except Chiesa, all those players were expected to leave anyway. I really don't understand the criticism. You guys have been saying for the last 3 years that the squad sucks but when Giuntoli is actually doing a total cleanup of the squad getting rid of all the overpaid, unmotivated/useless players, that's suddenly a bad thing now?
4. Douglas Luiz - one of the best CM's in the PL, Thuram certainly looks promising. With Koopmeiners, we would have done a complete overhaul of our midfield. Probably the best collection of midfielders we've had in the last 7-8 years. This alone is significant progress. What did you expect though? Mbappe? Camavinga? Wake up man. This is not JJ of old.
5. There's still 20 days remaining the mercato. No need to panic just yet. As of this moment, Chiesa is still here and we could be adding more.
6. We need 25 players for multiple competitions and we are on course to having that. If you think JJ is going into this season looking to win Serie A and compete in the CL, well prepare to be disappointed.

After three years of complete massacre from Allegro and the old management, this is going to be another year of rebuild. The new management deserve time and patience. We've been rekt on and off the field for the last 3 years. It's a long road back to the top but it will happen.
 

Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,184
I judge about facts and here they are:

1. We have sold our best young talents for small money.
2. We have offloaded some of our squad players for decent money.
3. We have suddenly ousted many players from the squad making it almost impossible to sell them now. Chiesa as one of the best Italian talents in last 10 years included.
4. In this Mercato we have signed one maybe two quality players worth of Juve shirt.
5. We have almost no quality wingers for the formation coach uses and meanwhile we brough in a fourth GK.
6. We are thin in almost every department and don't have the quality core of the squad and all their subs for 3+ competitions we will play in. And BTW Serie A starts next week.

Those are the facts. You can distort them all you want, but that's the 2/10 right there bro.
Don't use completely subjective terms and call them facts...

1. I don't know about you, but I don't consider 50 million small money.
3. If they're good they have a market. In or out the squad doesn't matter.
4. To be seen.
5. We brought in what should be a long term #1 on a money saving deal if Tek leaves without us paying a part of his salary. This has been explained a gazillion times now. If we can't place Tek like that, yes, it's stupid.
6. Yes, we're very thin but not for the first few weeks of Serie A. May I remind everyone that after the 1st of September there's an international break already and we'll continue to use our NextGen as backups too.

Why are so many haters prematurely ejaculating? Wait and see. Your time might come but not yet.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,225
some of you have an extremely short memory.
you all seems to forget how badly this club has been damaged and in any way it could possibly been damaged.
this guy has so many problems to solve in a relatively short time and all you need is one transfer delayed in order to start wining.

after a long period of time, after many many many suffering and despair it finally feels like there is someone to trust.
give him time, this rebuilding in all levels of the club might take longer then just one transfer window.

for me, considering the amount of problems left by the previous management, he is doing a great job.
my favorite move is when he signed a 4th goal keeper for 20m but left the defense and attack weak.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
my favorite move is when he signed a 4th goal keeper for 20m but left the defense and attack weak.
20m for the best Serie a keeper is a steal. You make this deal regardless, especially if your #1 keeper is well in his 30s. For 20m you cant improve attack and defense. They will either find the money, get a green light from above to go over the budget or wont. Simple as that. So far I like the mercato.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,223
how about keep the 20m in your pocket. use your current gk was doing just fine.

and worry about new goalie in 3 seasons time.
And potentially lose best keeper in the league? Doesnt seem like a good decision. And Tek couldnt last for 3 more years, his blunders are getting worse each season. We had to address this issue and for only 20m. A steal.
 

Siamak

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For me 2/10 Mercato so far.

I'm dead serious.
7/10 to me
We have already signed last season best GK and a decent midfielder(Thuram) & one LB/CB(Cabal) and we’d at least have Koopmeiners . I know Todibo will probably last/possible option for the rest of the summer. It's a long term plan that has brought by Giuntoli and Motta i think, we are not going to build a whole new team in one year probably take us a 2/3 years to fully recover from past and get rid of those junks who added into the team.
Of course if the plan itself is on point.

Negative point: Massive changes all at once. yet still the lack creativity and goals in the team is obvious.
 
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spurdo

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2016
1,918
Think ranking the mercato is useless at this point. There's so many factors in the air: half the squad is on sale, Chiesa situation is totally open and we're in the midst of still signing 3-4 players. It can either be a 5/10 or a 9/10 to me depending on whether or not we meet our objectives or not.

In an ideal scenario: we sell Milik, McKennie, Nicolussi, Rugani, De Shitlio, Arthur and Tek. We renegotiate a new deal with Chiesa. We sign a winger. We sign Todibo. We sign Koop. Many of these things can go down to the wire, my guess is a lot of players are gonna go out on loan....
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,537
how about keep the 20m in your pocket. use your current gk was doing just fine.

and worry about new goalie in 3 seasons time.
Bro just stop with the 20 mil.
It's 4.5 million this year and the rest next year when Tek would have left anyway an if di gregorio has another great season you pay 40 million not the rest of 15 for him.
You polluted all of Tuz with your 20 million nonsense

Say with me 4.5 million .
F'ing Hans Caviglia money or that barbieri dude.
 

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