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considering some less intelligent responses to this post, and my sunday evening crusage against morons, i'll elaborate on this a bit.
Mammels that are naturally living very large herds for tens of thousands of years, are safe options. They are robust against common infections, and usually get regulated by some kind of larger predator or apex predator.
cattle, sheeps, goats.
additionally, there is land based poultry which also lives in numbers, and abides by the same rule.
Duck, chicken, turkey,... (Note : herbivores only, there are hybrids)
A distinction is clear. Herbivores which lives in large herds. These are robust for humans to breed them also in large herds.
Then there are deemed safer omnivores
Pigs, wild pigs, poultry which eat arthropods, birds such as pigeons
Sure. Sometimes we do get illnesses in these species. Its natural for it to happen.
- swineflu : doesnt affect humans, but pigs die
- CJD (mad cow disease) : doesnt affect humans, cattle will die in pain (no treatment since its a prion)
- bird flu(poultry) : slim chance to affect humans. No chance to affect humans after its processed. only targets the farmers. and its "just a flu" in this case.
- swine fever : doesnt affect humans, but no treatment for the pigs, they will die
As you can see, livestock in the civilised world obviously can also get sick. Risk for humans ? Barely
additionally : sealife.
whats special aout sea life, its that the smaller sea life lives in large groups and its tricky to infect in watery enviroments. and the apex predators , who accumulate toxins if there are any, have ABSURD long lifespans.
Also safe, when preserved and cooked right, because the bacteria that infest dead fish, are quite possible the worst food born diseases
However, rhodents (mice, rats, bats,..) are known for centuries to be pathogen carriers. They transport the pathogen and wont be affected by it.
- for example, the black plague,
So here in the civilised world, its forbidden to breed, process and cell rhodents for human consumption.
But not in china.
Secondarely, mammels which arent herd mamels are a risk. These are a big unknown. This goes for carnivores, onmivores and herbivores
Its very simple. Dont eat anything that isnt a herbivoric herd mammel or a well preserved fish.
Dont eat a fucking rhodent that carried the plague 10 centuries ago
Mammels that are naturally living very large herds for tens of thousands of years, are safe options. They are robust against common infections, and usually get regulated by some kind of larger predator or apex predator.
cattle, sheeps, goats.
additionally, there is land based poultry which also lives in numbers, and abides by the same rule.
Duck, chicken, turkey,... (Note : herbivores only, there are hybrids)
A distinction is clear. Herbivores which lives in large herds. These are robust for humans to breed them also in large herds.
Then there are deemed safer omnivores
Pigs, wild pigs, poultry which eat arthropods, birds such as pigeons
Sure. Sometimes we do get illnesses in these species. Its natural for it to happen.
- swineflu : doesnt affect humans, but pigs die
- CJD (mad cow disease) : doesnt affect humans, cattle will die in pain (no treatment since its a prion)
- bird flu(poultry) : slim chance to affect humans. No chance to affect humans after its processed. only targets the farmers. and its "just a flu" in this case.
- swine fever : doesnt affect humans, but no treatment for the pigs, they will die
As you can see, livestock in the civilised world obviously can also get sick. Risk for humans ? Barely
additionally : sealife.
whats special aout sea life, its that the smaller sea life lives in large groups and its tricky to infect in watery enviroments. and the apex predators , who accumulate toxins if there are any, have ABSURD long lifespans.
Also safe, when preserved and cooked right, because the bacteria that infest dead fish, are quite possible the worst food born diseases
However, rhodents (mice, rats, bats,..) are known for centuries to be pathogen carriers. They transport the pathogen and wont be affected by it.
- for example, the black plague,
So here in the civilised world, its forbidden to breed, process and cell rhodents for human consumption.
But not in china.
Secondarely, mammels which arent herd mamels are a risk. These are a big unknown. This goes for carnivores, onmivores and herbivores
Its very simple. Dont eat anything that isnt a herbivoric herd mammel or a well preserved fish.
Dont eat a fucking rhodent that carried the plague 10 centuries ago
Bats are an exception to pretty much everything, but to answer your first question :
Both mammels and rodents who live in colonies, will have an excellent immune system against pathogens in general.
Mammels are much closer related to humans. They mostly arent disease carriers for us.
Mice and rats live in colonies. With excellent immune systems. Sadly their immune system is so good, they are excellent disease carriers. If the pathogen can effect the rodent, it will have a strong response to it. If they arent affected, it doesnt do anything, making it an exceptional disease carrier.
Because of their very high reproduction rate and species existance, they are evolved in this way
You want a herbivoric herd mammel, basically.
Now onto bats, they are an exception.
Its a mammel. The only one which flies. But shares the disease carrier ability with rodents.
because of their wide variety diet in asia, they also are extra likely to catch pretty much anything
Like with pidgeons, their extrements are also a source of dangerous pathogens to humans.
There literally isnt anything sensible about beeing in involved with bats
- Eats almost everything and off the ground
- flies a rather good radius
- eats anthropods too
- excellent disease carrier
- lives in colony in sheltered area, bunched up so excellent transmission
- chance that it carries rabies
- is eaten and sold in the third world
Both mammels and rodents who live in colonies, will have an excellent immune system against pathogens in general.
Mammels are much closer related to humans. They mostly arent disease carriers for us.
Mice and rats live in colonies. With excellent immune systems. Sadly their immune system is so good, they are excellent disease carriers. If the pathogen can effect the rodent, it will have a strong response to it. If they arent affected, it doesnt do anything, making it an exceptional disease carrier.
Because of their very high reproduction rate and species existance, they are evolved in this way
You want a herbivoric herd mammel, basically.
Now onto bats, they are an exception.
Its a mammel. The only one which flies. But shares the disease carrier ability with rodents.
because of their wide variety diet in asia, they also are extra likely to catch pretty much anything
Like with pidgeons, their extrements are also a source of dangerous pathogens to humans.
There literally isnt anything sensible about beeing in involved with bats
- Eats almost everything and off the ground
- flies a rather good radius
- eats anthropods too
- excellent disease carrier
- lives in colony in sheltered area, bunched up so excellent transmission
- chance that it carries rabies
- is eaten and sold in the third world