Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (38 Viewers)

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
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We are facing horrid situation here. Number of cases is increasing, we are one step away from total lock down, all we wait are election to pass this Sunday.

I've been in isolation for almost 14 days, my test came negative (PCR) and also I did antigen test which also was negative, however I feel kinda funny, I have slight discomfort in my lungs, small burning sensation in my nose and eyes... Tiredness is also present, I'll try to go to gym today to do some "testing" it might be just in my head.

On a side note, I waited for more than a 4 hours just to get simple prescription from my doctor, the lines are huge, most of the patients are covid related it's really horrible, like a horror movie. A friend of my who works in ER is telling me that the number of dead people is insane, and also that they have big surge of younger patients (30-40) with serious symptoms.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I'll try to go to gym today to do some "testing" it might be just in my head.
Not sure that's a good idea if you think you might have something. Better to go for a run or brisk walk outside first to see how you lungs feel. Trust me, you'll know the difference if you are symptomatic. I'm moderately certain I got mine from the gym, it makes most sense even with people cleaning equipment. No one is wearing masks and people are talking and shouting as normal.

Testing negative for both is a good thing of course but if you've not had it you can catch it at any time later than your test date, the same as anyone else.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,798
Dow up 4% today, Biden walking around like he did it himself, surely just a coincidence. :lol:
Is it just overweighted retail investors? Because there's an army of stupid out there ... cruise companies up +40% and home improvement stores and Zoom, Netflix clobbered -10%. It's like the id of a 10-year-old is in charge of the markets with absolutely zero strategic thinking.

:agree:

Hunter vs Don Jr

Best election ever.
Don't. Reality TV is a morass already.

yep, trying to bump that stock price after taking advantage of a volatile election. Cowards
The question will now be who will be the Pfeizer execs caught buying puts...
 

JuveJay

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Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
75,036
Elderly and risk groups getting them first or first come first served?
"If a vaccine is approved in the UK, care home residents and workers would be given first priority, followed by over-80s and health and social care workers.
Those over 50 would then be prioritised in decreasing order of age, alongside people with medical conditions that put them at greater risk."

Apparently you need two doses per person(?). It also sounds like there is no current plan to give it to healthy people under 50, but that has to evolve as that is the majority of the workforce...
 

Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,514
Not sure that's a good idea if you think you might have something. Better to go for a run or brisk walk outside first to see how you lungs feel. Trust me, you'll know the difference if you are symptomatic. I'm moderately certain I got mine from the gym, it makes most sense even with people cleaning equipment. No one is wearing masks and people are talking and shouting as normal.

Testing negative for both is a good thing of course but if you've not had it you can catch it at any time later than your test date, the same as anyone else.
Yeah, I don't have that big issue as I can normally walk or even run (although I hate running :D ). I just have some small pain, but it's probably nothing, I don't worry I'll catch it sooner or later as everyone around is getting it.

I agree about gym or even any kind of going out, but since I still work regularly and I'm exposed all time, I've decide that I won't spend the rest of the day locked at home, of course everything is open here, so that's another contributing factor.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
89,030
We are facing horrid situation here. Number of cases is increasing, we are one step away from total lock down, all we wait are election to pass this Sunday.

I've been in isolation for almost 14 days, my test came negative (PCR) and also I did antigen test which also was negative, however I feel kinda funny, I have slight discomfort in my lungs, small burning sensation in my nose and eyes... Tiredness is also present, I'll try to go to gym today to do some "testing" it might be just in my head.

On a side note, I waited for more than a 4 hours just to get simple prescription from my doctor, the lines are huge, most of the patients are covid related it's really horrible, like a horror movie. A friend of my who works in ER is telling me that the number of dead people is insane, and also that they have big surge of younger patients (30-40) with serious symptoms.
Sucks.

We are also having huge numbers, hospitals are almost full, yet we see no new measures.

Family that lives next to me, literally next door, caught it. Woman (40), her child and her mom. Doesn't seem serious although she says she has like 5% strength and can barely walk. But nothing major there.

I expect today or tomorrow to hit 3000 positive cases but over the next 5-7 days we should have all our hospitals full.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,806
UK government has already ordered 40m doses of the Pfizer vaccine, with 10m supposedly coming before Christmas.
You're only lucky bastard, you'll be filled with natural and artificial antibodies and probably be as indestructible as Wolverine after your second flu shot.
 
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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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    Is it just overweighted retail investors? Because there's an army of stupid out there ... cruise companies up +40% and home improvement stores and Zoom, Netflix clobbered -10%. It's like the id of a 10-year-old is in charge of the markets with absolutely zero strategic thinking.
    No, most of the moves occurred in the premarket session, so either algos or futures traders. Retail probably got screwed buying too late.
     

    Gian

    COME HOME MOGGI
    Apr 12, 2009
    17,806
    Is it just overweighted retail investors? Because there's an army of stupid out there ... cruise companies up +40% and home improvement stores and Zoom, Netflix clobbered -10%. It's like the id of a 10-year-old is in charge of the markets with absolutely zero strategic thinking.



    Don't. Reality TV is a morass already.



    The question will now be who will be the Pfeizer execs caught buying puts...
    I'm no economist nor have I ever owned a stock in my life but if I'm thinking logically I still have no idea why people are actually thinking Covid-restrictions should equal economic decline (bar the hospitality and travel industry).

    It's still possible to buy a new car, a new house etc. Maybe you need to wear a mask but while doing it but that's about it. The economical decline or financial markets going down is more a response emotional panic to this pandemic which is influencing people's expenses rather than the measures taken by the government. Probably acceptance and less emotional panic in the markets will bring some stability and create a better investment climate I guess
     

    lgorTudor

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    Jan 15, 2015
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    I'm no economist nor have I ever owned a stock in my life but if I'm thinking logically I still have no idea why people are actually thinking Covid-restrictions should equal economic decline (bar the hospitality and travel industry).

    It's still possible to buy a new car, a new house etc. Maybe you need to wear a mask but while doing it but that's about it. The economical decline or financial markets going down is more a response emotional panic to this pandemic which is influencing people's expenses rather than the measures taken by the government. Probably acceptance and less emotional panic in the markets will bring some stability and create a better investment climate I guess
    People can buy new cars but they are less likely to do so when their job is less secure. That in return drives company earnings down which then translates to a higher risk for employees to be laid off. Rinse and repeat. And more industries are hit by a domino effect than only the obvious ones such as travel. Energy, retail, services, manufacturing. External measures like social distancing lower the productivity and hurt companies on top of everything. And then you get a lot more people being sparing with their income and much more people with reduced or no income at all....who will definitely not buy a new car or house. Death Spiral.
     

    Enron

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    Oct 11, 2005
    75,667
    I'm no economist nor have I ever owned a stock in my life but if I'm thinking logically I still have no idea why people are actually thinking Covid-restrictions should equal economic decline (bar the hospitality and travel industry).

    It's still possible to buy a new car, a new house etc. Maybe you need to wear a mask but while doing it but that's about it. The economical decline or financial markets going down is more a response emotional panic to this pandemic which is influencing people's expenses rather than the measures taken by the government. Probably acceptance and less emotional panic in the markets will bring some stability and create a better investment climate I guess
    Like Tudor said, it’s basically lack of confidence creates a situation where people spend less, companies hire less, take less risk etc. lockdowns exacerbate the issue as we saw in the spring even with major government assistance. But overall, covid is terrible for the economy.
     

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