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Oh, but I can.
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Is this true about your “governments”? Sounds like a total mess tbh.
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From what your health care officials are saying, it sounds like your health care system is nearing capacity and on the edge of being overwhelmed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lockdown-to-avert-health-care-system-collapse
Health care staff being asked to keep working after testing positive as long as asymptomatic.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54688846
Apparently Germany taking in some patients to alleviate pressure. @DAiDEViL @lgorTudor
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/...-rhineland-palatinate-marc-noppen-uz-brussel/
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It's true. All of it.
Article is pretty good at highlighting some of the institutional problems Belgium has:
" The dictum “less is more” never reached the Belgian high echelons of power."
“A great many politicians can claim power but, in the end, no one is ever responsible,”
"Throughout the pandemic crisis, the Belgian population was unified in one thing: The general sense of confusion and bewilderment about the ever-changing rules imposed by the different layers of government."
Etc.
I think statements like these would seem like somewhat of an exaggeration for an outsider. But the sad fact is, they're all 100% accurate.
First time I hear anything about a message from bishops though. Can't recall even hearing anything about it.
Then again, I do ignore all info, messages, etc coming from "the church".
Yup.
I do trust the people in the field to avoid the worst though. If I had to take a guess, I'd say a collapse of the health system is not entirely impossible, but still very, very unlikely. Seems like this risk might be somewhat exaggerated just to get the point across that the situation is (more than) serious.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54688846
Also true. But not really "news" as such, considering that this was also the case in March & April.
Not an ideal situation, obviously, but probably not that big of a problem either.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/...-rhineland-palatinate-marc-noppen-uz-brussel/[/QUOTE]
It's about time they did something for us!
Article is pretty good at highlighting some of the institutional problems Belgium has:
" The dictum “less is more” never reached the Belgian high echelons of power."
“A great many politicians can claim power but, in the end, no one is ever responsible,”
"Throughout the pandemic crisis, the Belgian population was unified in one thing: The general sense of confusion and bewilderment about the ever-changing rules imposed by the different layers of government."
Etc.
I think statements like these would seem like somewhat of an exaggeration for an outsider. But the sad fact is, they're all 100% accurate.
First time I hear anything about a message from bishops though. Can't recall even hearing anything about it.
Then again, I do ignore all info, messages, etc coming from "the church".
From what your health care officials are saying, it sounds like your health care system is nearing capacity and on the edge of being overwhelmed.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lockdown-to-avert-health-care-system-collapse
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...lockdown-to-avert-health-care-system-collapse
I do trust the people in the field to avoid the worst though. If I had to take a guess, I'd say a collapse of the health system is not entirely impossible, but still very, very unlikely. Seems like this risk might be somewhat exaggerated just to get the point across that the situation is (more than) serious.
Health care staff being asked to keep working after testing positive as long as asymptomatic.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54688846
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54688846
Also true. But not really "news" as such, considering that this was also the case in March & April.
Not an ideal situation, obviously, but probably not that big of a problem either.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/...-rhineland-palatinate-marc-noppen-uz-brussel/[/QUOTE]
It's about time they did something for us!
France with 854 new deaths today. First day with over 500 deaths since April.
5th day straight with 1000+ rise in hospitalizations too.
5th day straight with 1000+ rise in hospitalizations too.
We used to have 300-500 positives per day in the first wave. Now we're having 1300-1800 regularly while I'm pretty sure we're gonna hit 2k like... tomorrow. And it's not like we're testing any more than before. It's just that % of positive tested seems to be increased drastically.
I do think with a population of 9 million, 2K positives per day doesn't seem that bad. Croatia and Bosnia (smaller populations) are putting up similar numbers. If you compare it to more Western countries like Austria or Switzerland with similar populations their recording 8-6k per positives per day.
Numbers would be slightly better, at best. Too many “FREEDUMB” twits south of the border for any pandemic mitigation and control to function really well.
But the messaging would be more consistent, the following of epidemiologist and public health expert guidelines pushed harder, and stimulus package/unemployment support would be better and longer lasting (ignoring future economic consequences for now).
I’d imagine they would be somewhere between where they are now (~715 deaths/million) and where we are here in Canada (270 deaths/million). Until they let it go fully out of control through the summer months, unlike the rest of the first world, their numbers per capita were very similar to ours.
But the messaging would be more consistent, the following of epidemiologist and public health expert guidelines pushed harder, and stimulus package/unemployment support would be better and longer lasting (ignoring future economic consequences for now).
I’d imagine they would be somewhere between where they are now (~715 deaths/million) and where we are here in Canada (270 deaths/million). Until they let it go fully out of control through the summer months, unlike the rest of the first world, their numbers per capita were very similar to ours.
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here is my prediction for covid situation.
if there is no vaccine by spring of 2021, there will be no more lockdowns. it's just not possible. restuarant and toursim industry (inlcuding airlines + cruises + hotels and all supporting industirs of these ) are completelty destroyed right now.
asking for people to just sit and lose their life savings and businesses for more than a year will not work. no one will follow the rules so grandma can live (she had her moment in life. now is our time will be the logic)
i am not saying this is my view or if it is justified or not. this is where i think we are headed
if there is no vaccine by spring of 2021, there will be no more lockdowns. it's just not possible. restuarant and toursim industry (inlcuding airlines + cruises + hotels and all supporting industirs of these ) are completelty destroyed right now.
asking for people to just sit and lose their life savings and businesses for more than a year will not work. no one will follow the rules so grandma can live (she had her moment in life. now is our time will be the logic)
i am not saying this is my view or if it is justified or not. this is where i think we are headed