Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (65 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...dexamethasone-not-hydroxychloroquine-covid-19

Another nail in the coffin for Hydroxychloroquine, and more evidence that Trump and the sycophantic morons propping him up are completely full of shit.

"The authors note that the results are limited by the fact that only 58% of the participants received testing for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, because of testing shortages at the time of enrollment."

You were probably too angry to read what you posted, also take a look at their underwriters :lol: I'm sure gilead has no stake in this, definitely no conflict of interest.
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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I looked at those tweets and didn't understand much. Do you have a recent scientific paper that points out that reinfection is impossible? Please don't throw tweets at me if you don't have.

There is no evidence that you can't get reinfected. Reports are coming that people get reinfected. And it is unknown so far what type of immunity the T-cells give. Time will tell but it won't be a surprise if this is a virus that you can get infected 3 times per year. We don't know yet. Nothing like that is being debunked.
 
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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"The authors note that the results are limited by the fact that only 58% of the participants received testing for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, because of testing shortages at the time of enrollment."

You were probably too angry to read what you posted, also take a look at their underwriters :lol: I'm sure gilead has no stake in this, definitely no conflict of interest.
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keep drinking that koolaid, braski.

ps. You were clearly too biased to read that it was two studies, not one, finding it ineffective. :baus:

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Meanwhile, here’s your “genius” and his “study” that started all this nonsense, getting trashed again by peer review. “Gross methodological shortcomings.” :lol:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920302338#!

I’m sure you shall come up with some conspiracy theory. Like hurr durr “Gilead and commies.”
 
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kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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:lol:

keep drinking that koolaid, braski.

ps. You were clearly too biased to read that it was two studies, not one, finding it ineffective. :baus:

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Meanwhile, here’s your “genius” and his “study” that started all this nonsense, getting trashed again by peer review. “Gross methodological shortcomings.” :lol:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920302338#!

I’m sure you shall come up with some conspiracy theory. Like hurr durr “Gilead and commies.”
A quote from this study

As outlined below, this study suffers from major methodological shortcomings which make it nearly if not completely uninformative.
Here's article form July 2

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

I wouldn't bet my chips that HCQ is useless vs COVID-19.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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A quote from this study



Here's article form July 2

Hydroxychloroquine lowers COVID-19 death rate, Henry Ford Health study finds

I wouldn't bet my chips that HCQ is useless vs COVID-19.
:tup: I don’t think it’s out of the question that some sort of benefit is found, but the non-peer reviewed studies, such as the observational one in the link above don’t tell us a whole lot. Just like the observational studies that said it had zero effect and even heightened death rates don’t tell us a whole lot. We don’t know what other elements skew those Observational studies for or against it. We don’t know what other treatments were used alongside it in the one above. Some patients were also treated with dexamethasone, which is a drug that’s actually been shown to be effective. 10% of patients were left out of the final results as they hadn’t yet been discharged from hospital, etc.

https://wdet.org/posts/2020/07/15/8...roxychloroquine-study-methodology-conclusion/

https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/art...roit_s_henry_ford_health_may_have_been_flawed

It could well have a use in the end, but until proper studies have been done and not just slipshod ones or observational ones that go against what double blind, placebo controlled studies have shown, it’s just speculation.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
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:lol:

keep drinking that koolaid, braski.

ps. You were clearly too biased to read that it was two studies, not one, finding it ineffective. :baus:

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Meanwhile, here’s your “genius” and his “study” that started all this nonsense, getting trashed again by peer review. “Gross methodological shortcomings.” :lol:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920302338#!

I’m sure you shall come up with some conspiracy theory. Like hurr durr “Gilead and commies.”

Beats going apeshit about stuff just coz trump endorses it ;)
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I think my roommate might have Coronavirus. He is getting tested in 30 minutes :scared:
This should be a pretty common occurrence in shared living situations, IMO. Good luck.

No idea. Isn't the narrative now that antibodies don't offer the protection they thought?
The narrative is it's science, it's data, it's complicated, and it's not black or white.

But just because we don't have conclusive evidence of the prevalence of reinfection doesn't mean it doesn't exist either.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Texas broke all sort of records yesterday, but despite the infection rate going up or flat hospitalizations are coming down rather consistently. If death count follows the same trend it'll peak next week and the one after that.
 
May 25, 2019
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Texas broke all sort of records yesterday, but despite the infection rate going up or flat hospitalizations are coming down rather consistently. If death count follows the same trend it'll peak next week and the one after that.
Is it possible that the hospital stays are becoming shorter due to more knowledge in terms of how to treat covid patients as well as better choices of medication? That or maybe the virus is indeed weakening as some have speculated.
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Is it possible that the hospital stays are becoming shorter due to more knowledge in terms of how to treat covid patients as well as better choices of medication? That or maybe the virus is indeed weakening as some have speculated.
Good point. I haven’t seen anything alluding to that but with remdesivir widely available, and doctors getting more experience in fighting COVID I’d say that’s a possibility.
 

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