Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (41 Viewers)

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[Dostoevsky]

The economy saves lives too. At some point people are unable to afford basic healthcare and they get into trouble later on. This isn't black and white.

That being said we had two months of lockdowns and now we're getting out of them with no plan at all and very little knowledge about the virus.

I've been against the lockdowns from day one, because I didn't believe them to be sustainable.

But imagine we come out of them and people start getting sick again. It would be a nightmare, socially and economically.

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IMO it's bound to happen. Maybe not right away if countries deal with it properly but it surely will happen again once things go back to normal and when countries open their borders. If that happens again I doubt countries will opt for another lockdown honestly. Even this damage was too much, I doubt they will want another one. So far % of death is 2% here and it's possibly even lower considering the population that wasn't tested. What I find funny is how all countries go like "we're gonna suffer 3-9% GDP loss, but next year we're hitting an X increase". Yeah, what a fucking joke. They all think it's gonna instantly stop and life goes on like nothing happened. Come second wave if some of the restrictions are still made we're gonna see plenty of countries collapse, let alone reach some high level of growth within the industry.

 

[Enron]

The economy saves lives too. At some point people are unable to afford basic healthcare and they get into trouble later on. This isn't black and white.

That being said we had two months of lockdowns and now we're getting out of them with no plan at all and very little knowledge about the virus.

I've been against the lockdowns from day one, because I didn't believe them to be sustainable.

But imagine we come out of them and people start getting sick again. It would be a nightmare, socially and economically.

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where I live, gyms and bars are among the first things to open up. seems insane if you ask me.

 

[Seven]

where I live, gyms and bars are among the first things to open up. seems insane if you ask me.

Lol, that's beyond ridiculous. I think the way we start things up here again does sort of make sense (for example we start by allowing students who are in their final year to go to high school again, but other students have to learn from home for now).

It's just that we've gone into a lockdown, don't really know anything more about how to beat this thing yet suddenly we decide it's okay.

I get it though. The first bankruptcies are starting to arrive. It has been awful for bars and restaurants and really it'll already take us years to recover.

From an economic standpoint I worry a lot about reopening now though. What if we get things going again and come winter a second wave hits us more strongly?

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[Enron]

Lol, that's beyond ridiculous. I think the way we start things up here again does sort of make sense (for example we start by allowing students who are in their final year to go to high school again, but other students have to learn from home for now).

It's just that we've gone into a lockdown, don't really know anything more about how to beat this thing yet suddenly we decide it's okay.

I get it though. The first bankruptcies are starting to arrive. It has been awful for bars and restaurants and really it'll already take us years to recover.

From an economic standpoint I worry a lot about reopening now though. What if we get things going again and come winter a second wave hits us more strongly?

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here school is still closed, opening is based on pure economics and lobbying power.

 

[swag]

Sorry for being impolite, but I have many issues with your video.
First and foremost is the conspiratorial angle the video takes.
Secondly, there is no scientific consensus for hydroxychloroquine being an effective treatment. One of the main proponents of this idea is Didier Raoult, a controversial French physician whose study involved 24 patients.
The video mentions the NIH’s. recommendation of Remdisvir as a treatment as controversial because of vested interests of some of the members of its coronavirus panel, but failed to mention that Sanofi commercially exploited the study conducted by Dr Raoult. Now I’m not saying one drug is better than the other, I’m sure pharma companies have a lot riding on this, but I’d rather wait for widespread scientific consensus drawn from extensive double blind clinical trials.
Finally, calling the coronavirus ‘a blood Clothing disease’ is just incorrect. Covid-19 is a respiratory disease. Blood clotting is just one of the consequences of the disease that happens in some patients.
And yes, I did not watch the entire video, but I did read all the links posted in the video description.
It’s important to take everything with a grain of salt, especially in this instance where no one knows many things pertaining to the coronavirus. Treating a YouTube video (The channel isn’t even a medical channel) as a fact source is dangerous. I’m sorry you see this as a personal attack.

Dude... I mean, they were citing crap from Reddit. At least if you cited 4chan you might have a shot at credibility ... even if just as a prankster.

Our medical guy just confirmed again in the live conference that for some reason there was a disproportionate amount of black and ethnic minority people suffering from worse symptoms, intensive care etc than the rest of the population. Clearly genes do play some part in this.

If I was BEM working in a hospital right now I'd be shitting myself, have to be honest. I know there is a large proportion of the staff who are, but in the paper they print the names each day of hospital staff who have died recently, and so many of them are either African or Asian names.

I don't think that's genetic so much as every other health care issue and disease that hit black and ethnic minority people harder across the board: diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, etc. Welcome to the failures of capitalism to protect its weakest members.

 

[Cerval]

I don't think that's genetic so much as every other health care issue and disease that hit black and ethnic minority people harder across the board: diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, etc. Welcome to the failures of capitalism to protect its weakest members.

Well said

 

[Ronn]

antibody survey with larger sample size

 

[.zero]

My fellow new yorkers out and about on this lovely day. No thanks

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

My fellow new yorkers out and about on this lovely day. No thanks

The parks by me are a zoo, meanwhile we have decently sized backyards. By you must be like nothing is wrong.

 

[pavluska]

The economy saves lives too. At some point people are unable to afford basic healthcare and they get into trouble later on. This isn't black and white.

That being said we had two months of lockdowns and now we're getting out of them with no plan at all and very little knowledge about the virus.

I've been against the lockdowns from day one, because I didn't believe them to be sustainable.

But imagine we come out of them and people start getting sick again. It would be a nightmare, socially and economically.

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In Europe you're titrating with healthcare.

That's far from having no plan at all or a blind high risk one.

An example of that would be Georgia/Kemp.

 

[.zero]

The parks by me are a zoo, meanwhile we have decently sized backyards. By you must be like nothing is wrong.

It's ridiculous

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Dude... I mean, they were citing crap from Reddit. At least if you cited 4chan you might have a shot at credibility ... even if just as a prankster.



I don't think that's genetic so much as every other health care issue and disease that hit black and ethnic minority people harder across the board: diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, etc. Welcome to the failures of capitalism to protect its weakest members.

Welcome to shifting personal responsibility to 'oppression': white man, capitalism, patriarchy.

 

[pavluska]

Thems some horrid flu and car accident numbers

 

[kao_ray]

This message aged well

 

[acmilan]

Welcome to shifting personal responsibility to 'oppression': white man, capitalism, patriarchy.

Welcome to dressing up the hypocrisy of capitalistic corporate interest as trickled-down personal responsibility: socialism is really good when arguing for equality in tax rates across the board, but when it comes to putting those taxes to work for the people, who paid them in the first place, then all of a sudden it's every man for himself.

Arguing personal responsibility for one's health can only take you this far. There is a litany of illnesses/conditions that do not stem from personal choices but are a function of merely being human. Of course a system that equates a corporation to a person wouldn't know the difference.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Welcome to dressing up the hypocrisy of capitalistic corporate interest as trickled-down personal responsibility: socialism is really good when arguing for equality in tax rates across the board, but when it comes to putting those taxes to work for the people, who paid them in the first place, then all of a sudden it's every man for himself.

Arguing personal responsibility for one's health can only take you this far. There is a litany of illnesses/conditions that do not stem from personal choices but are a function of merely being human. Of course a system that equates a corporation to a person wouldn't know the difference.

i lasted 3 words

 

[GordoDeCentral]

@Seven

https://www.aier.org/article/woodstock-occurred-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic/

 

[acmilan]

i lasted 3 words

Aaah, that forced, pretended laughter ... I am sure that was cool in high school, now, not so much.
If you have nothing to say, it's best to say nothing. You wanna keep people guessing, not remove all doubt.

 

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@Ronn