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Bjerknes

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    Yeah. Automatically discredited himself as a dumbass when he said evidence points to us already being at or near herd immunity.

    Even the antibodies study @Cerval referenced above that suggested tens of times more people have had it than tested positive stated that even with the adjusted rate from the study, only 3% of the population would have had it. Herd immunity requires 70-80%.

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    Add to that, this isn’t just about old people and people with underlying conditions dying. Young people, even though outcomes are good and they almost always survive, are hospitalized and in the ICU/on ventilators at a significant enough rate that without mitigation, allowing this to infect everyone in a short period of time, we’d collapse our health care systems like Italy. And if that happens, then young people who would survive with proper care start to die in more significant numbers.

    Japan struggling right now with hospital overload.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52336388
    42 / 7890 * 100% = 0.5% and these are confirmed cases/deaths.

    So if those numbers from New York are accurate then the argument to have a incremental opening with safeguards while shielding/supporting individuals with underlying conditions should be an option on the table, IMO.
     

    Ronn

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    May 3, 2012
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    wait, so its not fake but a globalist/ bill gates bioweapon?
    He’s been selling COVID-19 drugs on his website for some time now, so he’s been consistent.

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    that bill gates, curing malaria was not enough
    Wait a minute, after curing Malaria he needs to sell his huge stash of Hydroxychloroquine somewhere.
     

    AFL_ITALIA

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    Jun 17, 2011
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    42 / 7890 * 100% = 0.5% and these are confirmed cases/deaths.

    So if those numbers from New York are accurate then the argument to have a incremental opening with safeguards while shielding/supporting individuals with underlying conditions should be an option on the table, IMO.
    This is what we will be doing soon.

    New York State Set To Begin Critical Antibody Testing Survey

    https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/04/19/coronavirus-covid-19-new-york-state-antibody-testing/
     

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    Feb 9, 2013
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    42 / 7890 * 100% = 0.5% and these are confirmed cases/deaths.

    So if those numbers from New York are accurate then the argument to have a incremental opening with safeguards while shielding/supporting individuals with underlying conditions should be an option on the table, IMO.
    Again, it’s not just about deaths, but about hospitalization and icu needs being excessive if we just allow it to spread and overloading the system. In which case the young who end up in critical care needing a ventilator to survive may not get access to such.

    But I agree 100% about incremental opening. The piece @swag posted illustrates it perfectly. The only reason we ended up in this shutdown is because we didn’t prepare for this at all in the two months before it really started spreading massively in the west. We ignored it, didn’t set up mass testing protocols, didn’t get ready to do contact tracing and immediate isolation of positive cases, didn’t plan for social distancing while keeping things open. We could have done this like South Korea, Taiwan, Iceland, etc but we missed that opportunity because too many (like Donald Dump) were calling it a hoax and a nothing burger, and too many others bought into what China was selling (lies and misrepresentation) or were afraid of stepping on their toes.

    This shutdown is in effect, to put in place all the things we should have been doing in January and February to avoid shuttering the economy.

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    We have almost 6500 cases and Japan has 10k. I somehow doubt they are anywhere near the overload.
    Read the article, it’s about an already busy health care system not having the space to deal with the extra influx of patients with a highly contagious virus. They just haven’t planned well enough for this. And are struggling with in hospital infection outbreaks according to this:
    https://business.financialpost.com/...nfections-mount-japan-at-last-expands-testing

    Japan also likely has far more infections as they just haven’t been testing. Somehow they have only done 892 tests/million which is absurdly low.
     
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    duranfj

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    Jul 30, 2015
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    Guys, sorry but I may have to change to the dark pro open markets side right now, I was thinking the world would be in front of an economic depression between 1929 and 2008. China showed a 6,8% quarter contraction and that's what I was thinking, some countries even a low 2 digit decrease . However, after the oil prices collapse, I think that could actually happen to our economy, a collapse, a complete fall like anything before

    I know I'm in panic mode right now so let me think a little about it but if I start to write about concentration camps, you can be sure that the dark side got me completely
     

    ALC

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    Oct 28, 2010
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    Guys, sorry but I may have to change to the dark pro open markets side right now, I was thinking the world would be in front of an economic depression between 1929 and 2008. China showed a 6,8% quarter contraction and that's what I was thinking, some countries even a low 2 digit decrease . However, after the oil prices collapse, I think that could actually happen to our economy, a collapse, a complete fall like anything before

    I know I'm in panic mode right now so let me think a little about it but if I start to write about concentration camps, you can be sure that the dark side got me completely
    i wouldn't worry too much about oil
     

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