I don’t know enough about what he’s referencing to comment
But I had to read that four times, cocaine is one hell of a drug lol
But I had to read that four times, cocaine is one hell of a drug lol
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Yeah. Automatically discredited himself as a dumbass when he said evidence points to us already being at or near herd immunity.
Even the antibodies study @Cerval referenced above that suggested tens of times more people have had it than tested positive stated that even with the adjusted rate from the study, only 3% of the population would have had it. Herd immunity requires 70-80%.
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Add to that, this isn’t just about old people and people with underlying conditions dying. Young people, even though outcomes are good and they almost always survive, are hospitalized and in the ICU/on ventilators at a significant enough rate that without mitigation, allowing this to infect everyone in a short period of time, we’d collapse our health care systems like Italy. And if that happens, then young people who would survive with proper care start to die in more significant numbers.
Japan struggling right now with hospital overload.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52336388
Even the antibodies study @Cerval referenced above that suggested tens of times more people have had it than tested positive stated that even with the adjusted rate from the study, only 3% of the population would have had it. Herd immunity requires 70-80%.
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Add to that, this isn’t just about old people and people with underlying conditions dying. Young people, even though outcomes are good and they almost always survive, are hospitalized and in the ICU/on ventilators at a significant enough rate that without mitigation, allowing this to infect everyone in a short period of time, we’d collapse our health care systems like Italy. And if that happens, then young people who would survive with proper care start to die in more significant numbers.
Japan struggling right now with hospital overload.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52336388
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This is too easy.
Are there any sources for those numbers? Which Stanford study is he talking about?
Assuming it’s about the one that says the number of infected people is 50-80 times higher than the confirmed number..... that still gives an infection rate of 2-3% of the entire US population. Like Post Ironic said, herd immunity requires at least 60-70% of your population to be immune.
Even if the fatality rate of Covid is low, it’s so highly infectious that the sheer number of people admitted in intensive care and who end up dying are way above what the US healthcare system can handle. Even with lockdown imposed in most of the country, Covid-19 was the leading cause of death in the country this week. And these are just confirmed deaths, there are reports that the actual number of deaths could be 30-50% higher.
I get these folks want the economy to reopen and for life to return to normal. So do I. Just wishing for something doesn’t make it a reality. Waving a wand at this problem is not gonna make it go away, whether we like it or not.
Are there any sources for those numbers? Which Stanford study is he talking about?
Assuming it’s about the one that says the number of infected people is 50-80 times higher than the confirmed number..... that still gives an infection rate of 2-3% of the entire US population. Like Post Ironic said, herd immunity requires at least 60-70% of your population to be immune.
Even if the fatality rate of Covid is low, it’s so highly infectious that the sheer number of people admitted in intensive care and who end up dying are way above what the US healthcare system can handle. Even with lockdown imposed in most of the country, Covid-19 was the leading cause of death in the country this week. And these are just confirmed deaths, there are reports that the actual number of deaths could be 30-50% higher.
I get these folks want the economy to reopen and for life to return to normal. So do I. Just wishing for something doesn’t make it a reality. Waving a wand at this problem is not gonna make it go away, whether we like it or not.
which stanford study?
i just read this:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793?
still only a speculation, but with completely different bottom line.
i just read this:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793?
still only a speculation, but with completely different bottom line.
Yeah, that was definitely tin foil hat territory for me.
IMO, the most reasoned piece I've seen on this lately is:
http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/covid-19-the-game-is-over-305275.html
making the rounds in France and Switzerland lately.
And yes, you don't even have to click that Google Translate button because it's been translated from French.
Damn thing is almost a month old though...
IMO, the most reasoned piece I've seen on this lately is:
http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/covid-19-the-game-is-over-305275.html
making the rounds in France and Switzerland lately.
And yes, you don't even have to click that Google Translate button because it's been translated from French.
Damn thing is almost a month old though...
Yeah, that was definitely tin foil hat territory for me.
IMO, the most reasoned piece I've seen on this lately is:
http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/covid-19-the-game-is-over-305275.html
making the rounds in France and Switzerland lately.
And yes, you don't even have to click that Google Translate button because it's been translated from French. Damn thing is almost a month old though...
IMO, the most reasoned piece I've seen on this lately is:
http://jdmichel.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2020/03/24/covid-19-the-game-is-over-305275.html
making the rounds in France and Switzerland lately.
And yes, you don't even have to click that Google Translate button because it's been translated from French.
Damn thing is almost a month old though...
"we must all follow the instructions of the authorities without discussion." LOL
Not only is it a nonsensical bs discipline, along with sociology, but its academia is now completely in the clutches of marxist dogma. Pure historicist kaka, i would compare it to eating a nice meal while sick with diarrhea, you don't get any benefit just painful grimacing sick to your gut and gooey vile shit.
I'm mathematicians and I've done a lot of statistics.... and I just can tell you something, this virus is so good in what he does that anyone that is out there saying "I get it, I know what is happening" is nothing but BS... so far you can say nothing more that "in our study we find out this", it's impossible to extrapolate
Asymptomatic, incubation period, low death rate, highly contagious, mutations, living time on surfaces.... it's too good so it would take a huge sample to really understand it, millions and millions of cases, so for now on everyone need to do their best to study their own cases and try then to put all that pieces together very carefully and the most difficult part, be really unbiased (considering how western countries, China and WHO are handling this right now, I'm not sure that would be possible in a while)
Asymptomatic, incubation period, low death rate, highly contagious, mutations, living time on surfaces.... it's too good so it would take a huge sample to really understand it, millions and millions of cases, so for now on everyone need to do their best to study their own cases and try then to put all that pieces together very carefully and the most difficult part, be really unbiased (considering how western countries, China and WHO are handling this right now, I'm not sure that would be possible in a while)
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@Quetzalcoatl
"One big unknown is what will happen with the foundation’s money once it meets its target of eradicating polio, which started in the late 1980s and now appears to be nearing its goal. Chan has warned that if the polio money dries up in 2019, the global health body will be on the lookout for even more money."
https://www.politico.eu/article/bill-gates-who-most-powerful-doctor/
"One big unknown is what will happen with the foundation’s money once it meets its target of eradicating polio, which started in the late 1980s and now appears to be nearing its goal. Chan has warned that if the polio money dries up in 2019, the global health body will be on the lookout for even more money."
https://www.politico.eu/article/bill-gates-who-most-powerful-doctor/
Is it this guy Alex Jones?