But it's not just tests. Even 500k tests per week seem quite pointless if you cannot cure those who have it, if your medical capacity is shit -- which is case in most of the countries.
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Tests are useful at the start of the curve, where you want to isolate people who have it, or near the end of the curve, when you want to prevent a second wave and once again, isolate those who have it. Right now we are approaching the start of the middle of the curve in many countries, so like you said, testing on its own isn’t very useful.
If you do tests, you can detect in advance and treat the patient before it gets worse, prevent contamination and not overload hospitals.
@DAiDEViL @igortudor is there a total confinement in Germany? Is your economy at a standstill ?
@DAiDEViL @igortudor is there a total confinement in Germany? Is your economy at a standstill ?
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I doubt tests alone would help if there wasn't the measure of restricted movement etc. since hospitals would still get overloaded. Again, I can hardly compare intensive care units in Germany and any other country. Nobody would be prepared for such scale of ill people seeing how fast it spreads. Getting all infected via tests seems highly unlikely when you take into consideration the incubation period of 2 weeks. Chances are high that Germany also will get overloaded hospitals.
Has the normal flu completely vanished? It hasn’t. It still kills thousands of people every year and this won’t vanish either. We’ll have to live with this for a very long time if it will ever completely go away (I doubt it) but having an effective treatment/vaccine is what’s gonna make the difference.
everyone would look bad.
The goal normal govts, based on models and consensus among experts, have is a series of small waves under the healthcare cap.
In a dynamic fashion where you let those recovered get back into workforce and isolate the vulnerable and make changes each time next wave hits or goes down rather than same rules for everyone every time.
To anyone with any common sense, that's the best case and sustainable scenario in terms of healthcare and $ (what a novel thought that these two are interconnected esp in a pandemic and crisis would be worse). Those being greedy and callously selfish are also too dumb to have a longer term outlook.
In a dynamic fashion where you let those recovered get back into workforce and isolate the vulnerable and make changes each time next wave hits or goes down rather than same rules for everyone every time.
To anyone with any common sense, that's the best case and sustainable scenario in terms of healthcare and $ (what a novel thought that these two are interconnected esp in a pandemic and crisis would be worse). Those being greedy and callously selfish are also too dumb to have a longer term outlook.
Yeah, things can can out of hand in a hurry.
Indian authorities in the northern state of Punjab have quarantined around 40,000 residents from 20 villages following a Covid-19 outbreak linked to just one man.
The 70-year-old died of coronavirus - a fact found out only after his death.
The man, a preacher, had ignored advice to self quarantine after returning from a trip to Italy and Germany, officials told BBC Punjabi's Arvind Chhabra.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52061915
Indian authorities in the northern state of Punjab have quarantined around 40,000 residents from 20 villages following a Covid-19 outbreak linked to just one man.
The 70-year-old died of coronavirus - a fact found out only after his death.
The man, a preacher, had ignored advice to self quarantine after returning from a trip to Italy and Germany, officials told BBC Punjabi's Arvind Chhabra.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52061915
Prevention is better than cure.
Tests are not the miracle solution, but countries that have done a lot of them, have better results it is undeniable. If you are able to detect patients and separate them from the healthy population, hospitals will be less overloaded.
The containment in our countries is because we don't have enough tests and masks, in South Korea the population is not confined as in Germany.
Tests are not the miracle solution, but countries that have done a lot of them, have better results it is undeniable. If you are able to detect patients and separate them from the healthy population, hospitals will be less overloaded.
The containment in our countries is because we don't have enough tests and masks, in South Korea the population is not confined as in Germany.
Yeah, that's the next thing I'm looking for: how long the lag is between peak cases and peak deaths.
Also, post peak, do the doctors manage to save more people due to being less stretched? Or do they run out of equipment? Or is there a point where care standards inevitably slip as the strain of weeks of high-stress work start to catch up to medics?
Also, post peak, do the doctors manage to save more people due to being less stretched? Or do they run out of equipment? Or is there a point where care standards inevitably slip as the strain of weeks of high-stress work start to catch up to medics?
