Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (166 Viewers)

[Enron]

Apple cider vinegar is always on standby in my house. Start feeling the sniffles and a shot just clears everything out.

 

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[Osman]

Far worse things than the variant regularly hold that shirt

Fredi Bobic?


Or wait, you passed on that viral disease on Hertha.

 

[ALC]

Greece will fine people over 60 @ 100euros/m if they’re not vaxxed

get triggered

 

[Dostoevsky]

Incredible...

 

[JuveJay]

They have to pay Germany back somehow.

 

[swag]

Greece will fine people over 60 @ 100euros/m if they’re not vaxxed

get triggered

What's interesting is that's not a mandate as much as a society putting a price tag on social cost projections from the actuaries.

It's not that different from fining someone for not wearing a motorcycle helmet, but few will look at it that way.

 

[ALC]

What's interesting is that's not a mandate as much as a society putting a price tag on social cost projections from the actuaries.

It's not that different from fining someone for not wearing a motorcycle helmet, but few will look at it that way.

or a seatbelt ticket

 

[Dostoevsky]

What's interesting is that's not a mandate as much as a society putting a price tag on social cost projections from the actuaries.

It's not that different from fining someone for not wearing a motorcycle helmet, but few will look at it that way.

What? Just...no. it's totally different. It's different when you gotta wear a hat or drink something. Both are related to your body but one thing is external while other one isn't and creating such punishment should be against the law.

if you made it a choice then don't force it. It's hilarious people still think it's not really mandatory but it's fine to not get hired, not be able to shop. Hell, in Greece even walk at this point. Those who took the vaccine seem to be swallowing every piece that comes out without thinking twice.

 

[Post Ironic]

What? Just...no. it's totally different. It's different when you gotta wear a hat or drink something. Both are related to your body but one thing is external while other one isn't and creating such punishment should be against the law.

if you made it a choice then don't force it. It's hilarious people still think it's not really mandatory but it's fine to not get hired, not be able to shop. Hell, in Greece even walk at this point. Those who took the vaccine seem to be swallowing every piece that comes out without thinking twice.

It’s the same as mandatory vaccines for children. We have lots of those if you want to be allowed to send your kids to school.

 

[Enron]

It’s the same as mandatory vaccines for children. We have lots of those if you want to be allowed to send your kids to school.

You can get a vaccine exemption in most states in the US. But you have to let the school know your kid isn’t vaccinated and they have the right to not let your kid register.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Rumors they'll make it so that you only count as vaxxed for 6 months

Then you either take the next shot or you'll count as unvaccinated. Madness.

 

[Enron]

European communism has no shame.

 

[Post Ironic]

You can get a vaccine exemption in most states in the US. But you have to let the school know your kid isn’t vaccinated and they have the right to not let your kid register.

Yeah. You can also get a Covid vaccination exemption for various medical reasons even where it’s being mandated. It’s not a lot different than how childhood vaccinations are handled. I don’t necessarily think Covid vaccine should be mandated, but the people shouting tyranny and acting like this is some huge unprecedented thing in human history have little knowledge of history.

 

[Enron]

Well, when you spend your life under the syckle and hammer of a socialist anti god cabal it’s hard to know what true freedom is.

 

[swag]

What? Just...no. it's totally different. It's different when you gotta wear a hat or drink something. Both are related to your body but one thing is external while other one isn't and creating such punishment should be against the law.

On what basis do you discriminate what's internal from what's external? Why? What makes that the cliff of dividing lines?

If you get into car accidents 10x as often as your neighbor, your insurance premiums are likely - and justifiably -- higher. Is that technically internal or external to your body?

By your definition, that's external because of its legality. But I don't think that has anything to do with what you're wearing when you drive.

if you made it a choice then don't force it. It's hilarious people still think it's not really mandatory but it's fine to not get hired, not be able to shop. Hell, in Greece even walk at this point. Those who took the vaccine seem to be swallowing every piece that comes out without thinking twice.

It's not being forced if you can cough up a few bucks. Your choice is only on whether you want to save the extra cash or not. That's not the same thing as forced.

Juventini aren't forced to sit in the Juventus Stadium curva just because the executive boxes cost more.

We can play a little human bias psychology too: what if vaccinated people got a tax break? Is that forcing people?

The ultimate effect is no different.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

A study on NBA players and staff found vaccinated people with breakthrough infections may be less likely to spread COVID-19 to others

https://www.businessinsider.com/nba-vaccinated-people-less-likely-to-spread-covid-to-others-2021-11

• The study was conducted in partnership with the NBA.
• It examined nearly 20,000 viral samples from the league's occupational health program.
• It found vaccinated people cleared their infections an average of two days faster.

A new study of NBA players, staff, and household members provides yet more evidence that fully vaccinated people who get a breakthrough case of COVID-19 may be less infectious than their unvaccinated peers.

The data, collected when the Alpha and Delta variants of the coronavirus were dominant, supports a commonly-held theory among experts.

Last July, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention walked back earlier guidance that had said vaccinated people need not wear masks indoors, saying they should do so in areas of the country experiencing high rates of infection. At the time, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky cited the rise of the highly transmissible Delta variant and "worrisome" new science that indicated vaccinated individuals "may be contagious and spread the virus to others."

The new study, published by the peer-reviewed New England Journal of Medicine, does not challenge that claim — researchers found that people with breakthrough infections may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people.

However, researchers found that individuals with breakthrough illnesses are infectious for a shorter period of time, reducing the opportunity for them to pass the virus onto others. What's more, previous evidence suggests vaccinated people are also far less likely to be infected in the first place, especially if they have received a booster shot.

The vaccinated have a shorter transmission window, the study found

To reach their findings, scientists partnered with the National Basketball Association and analyzed 19,941 viral samples from 173 people enrolled in the professional league's occupational health program between November 2020 and August 2021. Under the program, NBA players were subject to regular testing for COVID-19.

According to the study, vaccinated people remained infected for 5.5 days, on average, compared to 7.5 days for unvaccinated people. That's 48 hours — or roughly 36% — less time to infect others.

Researchers found no difference between those who received the two-dose Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine and the one-dose viral vector vaccine from Johnson & Johnson. (Moderna's mRNA vaccine was not assessed due to a small sample size.)

"Our work provides the most detailed information to date about how viral concentrations change in the body across the full duration of SARS-CoV-2 infection," study co-author Stephen Kissler said in a statement. Kissler is a research fellow at the Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, which led the study.

The findings support earlier claims about vaccines

While the NBA partnership provided a steady stream of samples, it also produced a study population that was overwhelmingly young, healthy, and male, and therefore not representative of the public at large.

It was also conducted before the rise of Omicron, the latest variant of concern. While it's not yet clear whether Omicron is more infectious or virulent than Delta, more research is needed to see how well our vaccines fend it off.

Nevertheless, the findings support what Dr. Anthony Fauci, the US's top infectious disease expert, said last summer: that vaccinated people are "less likely" to spread the virus. Previous studies have also found that vaccinated people typically experience shorter, milder symptoms if they are infected, as well as a faster pace of clearing the virus, all of which points to a narrower window for transmission.

Headline is kinda dumb, but still good news.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Greece will fine people over 60 @ 100euros/m if they’re not vaxxed

get triggered

So, essentially, Greece are instating an idiot tax.

That's pretty funny.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You have the chair of the South African Medical Association saying this

then you have the usual fear mongering like this

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...and-why-are-scientists-so-concerned-1.5689214

 

[Ronn]

You have the chair of the South African Medical Association saying this

then you have the usual fear mongering like this

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coron...and-why-are-scientists-so-concerned-1.5689214

Nobody knows shit about this new variant yet. Panic is as premature as “everything is fine” attitude.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Nobody knows shit about this new variant yet. Panic is as premature as “everything is fine” attitude.

Who said "everything is fine"?