Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (108 Viewers)
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Unvaccinated under-40s are the ones most sick/dying in hospitals right now in the UK. Lots of hard cheese stories of people who wished they'd had the vaccine. One guy who was 34, three kids, clearly a fat lad but he was active. Shame for his family, but life is full of choices...
It seems that the R rate might be dropping. There were a lot more deaths yesterday as these people in ICU passed, but fewer new cases. Seems that school testing was bumping up recent numbers a little.
Apparently 70% of 18-20 year olds have had at least one vaccination so far.
It seems that the R rate might be dropping. There were a lot more deaths yesterday as these people in ICU passed, but fewer new cases. Seems that school testing was bumping up recent numbers a little.
Apparently 70% of 18-20 year olds have had at least one vaccination so far.
I don't even know what figures you are using, so it would be impossible for me to deliberately exclude. Which country? Which day? There were 131 UK deaths yesterday.
And besides, even if the stats you use were true, they are completely misleading because vaccinated people make up a far larger number of the population (91% one dose, 73% two doses), so run the numbers on that and see how it works for you.
And besides, even if the stats you use were true, they are completely misleading because vaccinated people make up a far larger number of the population (91% one dose, 73% two doses), so run the numbers on that and see how it works for you.
So when the numbers support what suits you, they’re fine, but when they’re not in line with your beliefs, you find a myriad of excuses why not believe them. OK, you beat me with arguments.
Another thing. Would you pour into the tank of your car something for which the manufacturer does not give any guarantee and has guaranteed in advance that he will not be liable for any damage?
Another thing. Would you pour into the tank of your car something for which the manufacturer does not give any guarantee and has guaranteed in advance that he will not be liable for any damage?
Are you sure about those numbers?
Because I read that out of 259 deaths, there were 285 who were fully vaxxed.
Also, out of 1234 hospitalizations, there were 12,5 who were fully vaxxed, 25674 who had received one shot & -129 who had not been vaccinated.
Furthermore, looking at average positivity rates: out of 100 people who test positive for Covid, 18 are fully vaxxed, 32 have received one shot & 38 are unvaccinated.
Trust me, those numbers add up.
Source: I heard it from this one guy who read something a very credible person had posted on the Internet.
Because I read that out of 259 deaths, there were 285 who were fully vaxxed.
Also, out of 1234 hospitalizations, there were 12,5 who were fully vaxxed, 25674 who had received one shot & -129 who had not been vaccinated.
Furthermore, looking at average positivity rates: out of 100 people who test positive for Covid, 18 are fully vaxxed, 32 have received one shot & 38 are unvaccinated.
Trust me, those numbers add up.
Source: I heard it from this one guy who read something a very credible person had posted on the Internet.
The thing that annoys me is that the "vaccine requirement" label is being lumped together with cases where you don't have to be vaccinated but need to have a negative test within 48 hours. For example, many of the bars in California.
The difference is significant. And this just adds to the confusion idiocy about what a vaccine is for, or not, and what a test offers, or not. People are conflating and confusing them all the time. This is really badly communicated and badly managed, and I can't just blame the stupid people who just don't understand science this time.
I just shake my head at what that whole thing was about anyway. So myopic and unnecessary and just lends to an impression that the CDC is talking out of its ass.
The difference is significant. And this just adds to the confusion idiocy about what a vaccine is for, or not, and what a test offers, or not. People are conflating and confusing them all the time. This is really badly communicated and badly managed, and I can't just blame the stupid people who just don't understand science this time.
I just shake my head at what that whole thing was about anyway. So myopic and unnecessary and just lends to an impression that the CDC is talking out of its ass.