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I changed the link to an article with more data, as I was curious about that too. They actually used life tables and health care data from Wales. These aren’t made-up figures.
For example, an 80 year old with high blood pressure and diabetes but no kidney disease was expected to live 7 more years.
But, you know better lgor
It pretty clearly makes sense. Someone at 81 with no underlying health issues lives to an average of 95 years old. Hardly unbelievable in countries where the average life expectancy is 81-83 (Wales and Italy). While someone 50 in the same situation of no current underlying health issues lives on average another 35 years to only 85 as they can still run into all sorts of those issues and the things that kill people in between 50-85.
For example, an 80 year old with high blood pressure and diabetes but no kidney disease was expected to live 7 more years.
But, you know better lgor
It pretty clearly makes sense. Someone at 81 with no underlying health issues lives to an average of 95 years old. Hardly unbelievable in countries where the average life expectancy is 81-83 (Wales and Italy). While someone 50 in the same situation of no current underlying health issues lives on average another 35 years to only 85 as they can still run into all sorts of those issues and the things that kill people in between 50-85.
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I changed the link to an article with more data, as I was curious about that too. They actually used life tables and health care data from Wales. These aren’t made-up figures.
For example, an 80 year old with high blood pressure and diabetes but no kidney disease was expected to live 7 more years.
But, you know better lgor
For example, an 80 year old with high blood pressure and diabetes but no kidney disease was expected to live 7 more years.
But, you know better lgor
Example: 50% of the population are making $1 million per year. 50% of the population are making $0 per year.
Statistic and conclusion: country is a paradise because avg income is $500k
You still have done nothing to dispute those numbers.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/datasets/nationallifetableswalesreferencetables/current/nationallifetables3yearwales.xls
Here are the actual life tables, that don’t take into account health conditions and underlying issues of people. Just the average expected years left of every single person who reaches a certain age.
The average 81 year old male can expect to live another 7.59 years. The average 81 year old female can expect to live another 8.88 years.
Hardly shocking to think the subset of that group with zero underlying health issues lives on average another 14 years.
But keep banging your head against the wall, dude.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/datasets/nationallifetableswalesreferencetables/current/nationallifetables3yearwales.xls
Here are the actual life tables, that don’t take into account health conditions and underlying issues of people. Just the average expected years left of every single person who reaches a certain age.
The average 81 year old male can expect to live another 7.59 years. The average 81 year old female can expect to live another 8.88 years.
Hardly shocking to think the subset of that group with zero underlying health issues lives on average another 14 years.
But keep banging your head against the wall, dude.
It kind of reflects that, for most people, being President can be a pretty sh*%#y job. Trump has too much of the job that he hates, so he needs this outlet to have fun and make his life and his role worthwhile to him.
this Onion tweet is from a month ago. They predicted it so fucking well.
That's pretty amazing. Simpsons-like.
Suicide is a great deterrent from getting COVID-19.
I do think Fox News is more of the symptom than the cause, Hoori. And sad to say, I think the Fox News effect has helped turn CNN into a shill and a shell of what it once was. When it comes to selling things to people, it pays better to pander than to challenge, and many of the media networks have caught on to that.
Of course Russia is no stranger to disinformation, but I get the sense that -- unlike a lot of Americans -- they know that all information is potentially rigged by design. With a lot of Americans it seems highly selective and definitely much aligned around supporting world views and the mental health (or illness) surrounding group identity, so skepticism gets a pass when it meets certain filtering criteria.
I used to think that a lot of those conspiracy theory biases were rooted in simpleton minds. And conspiracy theories on the surface work because some people are psychologically much more comfortable with a world that is characterized by design and human intention -- and that the opposite of randomness and complexity or chaos is too unsettling to not just comprehend but also mentally accept.
So unnerving it is to believe that JFK could be taken down by a lone, deranged gunman that there has to be a more plausible explanation. Rape victims cannot be random victims of violent crimes -- there has to be something they wore or did, the victim blaming, to cause it to happen. This provides a sort of false mental comfort that the world isn't random and that if you don't do A, B. or C, you can avoid ever falling victim yourself.
But I've come to believe it's more than just a simpleton's desire for a simple cause-and-effect universe. Part of the more uniquely American part is rooted in exceptionalism -- the idea that individuals know better than what the best of trained experts can tell us. So we get anti-vaxxers. We get people who claim GMOs are biological voodoo. We get people who play armchair epidemiologists, dismissing public health recommendations in favor of cult ideas of what's best for them and their families because they know better.
Our world of experts haven't done themselves a great service either by occasionally showing their biases. But we are all human and capable of mistakes not to mention finding data to fit our beliefs. Sadly the natural imperfection of humans causes some to believe that they individually know better than the collective experts who can self-censure the bad ideas from the good ones.
Statistically, that's true. People who live to age 70 have a longer expected lifespan, in total, than people who only made it to 50 yet, for example. This is the Bayesian inference part of life expectancy: the longer you survive, the more likely that you will have a longer than average lifespan.
this Onion tweet is from a month ago. They predicted it so fucking well.
What trump said it’s accurate. Corona will die from it, so the person from detergent 
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I do think Fox News is more of the symptom than the cause, Hoori. And sad to say, I think the Fox News effect has helped turn CNN into a shill and a shell of what it once was. When it comes to selling things to people, it pays better to pander than to challenge, and many of the media networks have caught on to that.
Of course Russia is no stranger to disinformation, but I get the sense that -- unlike a lot of Americans -- they know that all information is potentially rigged by design. With a lot of Americans it seems highly selective and definitely much aligned around supporting world views and the mental health (or illness) surrounding group identity, so skepticism gets a pass when it meets certain filtering criteria.
I used to think that a lot of those conspiracy theory biases were rooted in simpleton minds. And conspiracy theories on the surface work because some people are psychologically much more comfortable with a world that is characterized by design and human intention -- and that the opposite of randomness and complexity or chaos is too unsettling to not just comprehend but also mentally accept.
So unnerving it is to believe that JFK could be taken down by a lone, deranged gunman that there has to be a more plausible explanation. Rape victims cannot be random victims of violent crimes -- there has to be something they wore or did, the victim blaming, to cause it to happen. This provides a sort of false mental comfort that the world isn't random and that if you don't do A, B. or C, you can avoid ever falling victim yourself.
But I've come to believe it's more than just a simpleton's desire for a simple cause-and-effect universe. Part of the more uniquely American part is rooted in exceptionalism -- the idea that individuals know better than what the best of trained experts can tell us. So we get anti-vaxxers. We get people who claim GMOs are biological voodoo. We get people who play armchair epidemiologists, dismissing public health recommendations in favor of cult ideas of what's best for them and their families because they know better.
Our world of experts haven't done themselves a great service either by occasionally showing their biases. But we are all human and capable of mistakes not to mention finding data to fit our beliefs. Sadly the natural imperfection of humans causes some to believe that they individually know better than the collective experts who can self-censure the bad ideas from the good ones.
Statistically, that's true. People who live to age 70 have a longer expected lifespan, in total, than people who only made it to 50 yet, for example. This is the Bayesian inference part of life expectancy: the longer you survive, the more likely that you will have a longer than average lifespan.
