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[Post Ironic]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...tions-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study

Yikes.

 

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[lgorTudor]

Always believe the opposite of what Chinese say.

 

[campionesidd]

This makes me very happy.


He almost certainly had the virus before the protest and he sure as hell spread it to a bunch of protestors. Darwin will welcome them with open arms.

 

[Post Ironic]

Always believe the opposite of what Chinese say.

Yeah, no. The virus mutations and different strains have also been reported on in the US and Europe... this one is just the first study to show the extent of it.

 

[swag]

Novax Djokovic

I'm an anti-hand-washer myself.

That sound better than religion and farming

Combine all three and then you really have something!

Georgia to reopen in only a few days.

Does social distancing work at a state-to-state level? We're about to find out...

I love all these people who think that if you open the bar, all your customers will jam in and fill the place up like before after this.

they had to put one here in SLC because Karen was overwhelming 911

I wish to speak with the mayor.

And Trump thinks the death toll won’t go past 60,000

He needs every MAGA vote he can get.

I think more and more evidence is surfacing that the Spanish flu had the impact it did because of WWI and an already weakened population, so I don't think this is the best example. But the death toll was estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million to 50 million so yeah, of course you'd have to take extreme measures. But isn't that the point I was making?

Why the Spanish flu had the impact it did is right in the name. With nations focused on propaganda and not trying to show a weak hand, citizens were all kept in the dark while the virus spread. They were all being China x 1000, except they couldn't even admit it to their own people. This is why AIDS spread as it did: when you cannot socially talk about it, everybody is more likely to get it.

 

[ALC]

This makes me very happy.


He almost certainly had the virus before the protest and he sure as hell spread it to a bunch of protestors. Darwin will welcome them with open arms.

lol you hate to see it

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Yeah, no. The virus mutations and different strains have also been reported on in the US and Europe... this one is just the first study to show the extent of it.

so the first strain did not have human to human transmission? i find that hard to believe, it wouldn't have spread like wildfire otherwise. seriously, i believe nothing china says

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm an anti-hand-washer myself.



Combine all three and then you really have something!



Does social distancing work at a state-to-state level? We're about to find out...

I love all these people who think that if you open the bar, all your customers will jam in and fill the place up like before after this.



I wish to speak with the mayor.



He needs every MAGA vote he can get.



Why the Spanish flu had the impact it did is right in the name. With nations focused on propaganda and not trying to show a weak hand, citizens were all kept in the dark while the virus spread. They were all being China x 1000, except they couldn't even admit it to their own people. This is why AIDS spread as it did: when you cannot socially talk about it, everybody is more likely to get it.

Spanish influenza also created a massive cytokine storm to kill people. The healthier and stronger the immune system the greater the immune system overreaction. Which is why it predominately preyed on the young and healthy. It also didn’t help that doctors then had far less effective tools to combat such things. Nor that the war effort both spread the virus massively through troop movements around the world, and through continued production of munitions making quarantine infeasible during the deadly second wave.

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lol you hate to see it

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so the first strain did not have human to human transmission? i find that hard to believe, it wouldn't have spread like wildfire otherwise. seriously, i believe nothing china says

I didn’t say that. I don’t believe that nonsense for a second. That was CCP and WHO political nonsense. As shown by the fact it said no evidence seen from Chinese “authorities” and didn’t reference any scientists or studies at all.

I’m talking about the mutation/strain study I posted above, which discusses the huge number of mutations of the virus already and the varying levels of potency between them. lgor made his post to suggest we shouldn’t believe it because “Chinese scientists”

 

[swag]

Spanish influenza also created a massive cytokine storm to kill people. The healthier and stronger the immune system the greater the immune system overreaction. Which is why it predominately preyed on the young and healthy. It also didn’t help that doctors then had far less effective tools to combat such things. Nor that the war effort both spread the virus massively through troop movements around the world, and through continued production of munitions making quarantine infeasible during the deadly second wave.

And yet most nations are resorting to lockdowns, which is about as blunt and medieval an instrument of public health that you can get.

 

[pavluska]

So the white race really is superior

Not among the most intelligent and decreasing semen counts...doesn't seem like it

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Aren’t most doctors in the UK of South Asian origin?

I don't know if most or somewhere between here (many) and most... @JuveJay can tell us

 

[lgorTudor]

Yeah, no. The virus mutations and different strains have also been reported on in the US and Europe... this one is just the first study to show the extent of it.

That was a misunderstanding. I know there are mutations. Weeks ago, somebody even toasted some live dashboard and it showed US covid being a different strain than european. But at this point it's the smartest thing to just follow Western researchers and ignore whatever comes out of Ch*na. Everything they say is just a geopolitical play at worst and deception at best.

 

[campionesidd]

That was a misunderstanding. I know there are mutations. Weeks ago, somebody even toasted some live dashboard and it showed US covid being a different strain than european. But at this point it's the smartest thing to just follow Western researchers and ignore whatever comes out of Ch*na. Everything they say is just a geopolitical play at worst and deception at best.

China is almost as untrustworthy as Trump.

 

[Post Ironic]

That was a misunderstanding. I know there are mutations. Weeks ago, somebody even toasted some live dashboard and it showed US covid being a different strain than european. But at this point it's the smartest thing to just follow Western researchers and ignore whatever comes out of Ch*na. Everything they say is just a geopolitical play at worst and deception at best.

I’d ignore everything even slightly politicized out of China for sure. China should lambasted and sanctioned heavily for their subterfuge and propaganda that helped spread this and caused so many to underestimate it.

But the article I linked and the study referenced there just confirms what has been suspected and shown to a lesser degree previously by Western researchers. That this thing is mutating, doing so frequently, and some strains have a far greater viral load than others.

 

[Lapa]

So the white race really is superior

 

[Seven]

Spanish influenza also created a massive cytokine storm to kill people. The healthier and stronger the immune system the greater the immune system overreaction. Which is why it predominately preyed on the young and healthy. It also didn’t help that doctors then had far less effective tools to combat such things. Nor that the war effort both spread the virus massively through troop movements around the world, and through continued production of munitions making quarantine infeasible during the deadly second wave.

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This was always my belief regarding the Spanish Flu, but apparently some studies discredit this theory.

 

[kao_ray]

I’d ignore everything even slightly politicized out of China for sure. China should lambasted and sanctioned heavily for their subterfuge and propaganda that helped spread this and caused so many to underestimate it.

China and WHO single-handedly created this mess. I would say nuke 'em but seriously they both should be punished.

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This was always my belief regarding the Spanish Flu, but apparently some studies discredit this theory.

The main theory about the Spanish influenza is that everyone creates antibodies for the rest of his life from the first flu he has. And obviously the generation of 18 to 24 had antibodies for a type of flu that made them too aggressive for H1N1 strain.

 

[Post Ironic]

This was always my belief regarding the Spanish Flu, but apparently some studies discredit this theory.

I can’t find any studies that contradict this... there’s a snopes article that claims it wasn’t that deadly and war and associated poor living conditions were the real cause of high deaths, but all the studies and research I can find still point to a cytokine storm, the immune system overreaction. And what @kao_ray posted above about antibodies, and flu “imprinting” from your earliest childhood exposure to flu which would have been H3N8 for the hardest hit 25-35 year olds during Spanish Flu and wouldn’t have provided them any cross-protection at all from H1N1 and would possibly create an immune system overreaction

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/4/140428-1918-flu-avian-swine-science-health-science/

 

[JuveJay]

I don't know if most or somewhere between here (many) and most... @JuveJay can tell us

There is more parental pressure for them to be a doctor or dentist or engineer than there is in most other cultures (Chinese here tend to be either students or working class), so there is a higher number, but also other non-British peoples.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...tions-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study

Yikes.

Non peer reviewed featured in a notorious chinese propaganda rag what a great way to justify their low number of fatalities.

 

[pavluska]

There is more parental pressure for them to be a doctor or dentist or engineer than there is in most other cultures (Chinese here tend to be either students or working class), so there is a higher number, but also other non-British peoples.

About what % of docs are white britons?

 

[ALC]

A disturbing new study suggests Sean Hannity helped spread the coronavirus
Sophisticated new research links Hannity’s coronavirus misinformation to “a greater number of Covid-19 cases and deaths.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death