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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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And Trump thinks the death toll won’t go past 60,000 :sergio:
You blaspheme the cheetoh jesus. He was appointed by God and communes with Jesus to make America great again.

Seriously though, it’s sad I had to edit that post thrice over about an hour to get final daily death toll of 2804. Mental. ~10,000 people dying every 4 days in the US right now.

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2000 per day for a month will take the toll to 110k or thereabouts. And then another month of 1000 deaths per on average. This is the best case scenario, so 140,000 deaths is a bare minimum.
US hit 2000 deaths in a day for the first time on April 7th. So over the 15 days since, it has 32,190 deaths, or 2146/day. If we said today was the peak and the parabola shall flatten at a similar rate, over 30 days that 2146/day is 64,380 dead.

The death toll was 13,128 before they hit 2000 in a day, and if we assumed the same on the down slope (which is incredibly unlikely as shown by Italy it will be far more drawn out in middle numbers), that would add 26,256 dead. For a total of 90,636 dead.

Unfortunately, serious/critical went up as well today, which would suggest that unless a more effective treatment is found, we still haven’t seen peak daily deaths yet. Which means we could be seeing 2000+ a day for significantly longer than the next 15 days, and then your number of 140k looks a lot more likely. :scared:
 
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campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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You blaspheme the cheetoh jesus. He was appointed by God and communes with Jesus to make America great again.

Seriously though, it’s sad I had to edit that post thrice over about an hour to get final daily death toll of 2804. Mental. ~10,000 people dying every 4 days in the US right now.

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US hit 2000 deaths in a day for the first time on April 7th. So over the 15 days since, it has 32,190 deaths, or 2146/day. If we said today was the peak and the parabola shall flatten at a similar rate, over 30 days that 2146/day is 64,380 dead.

The death toll was 13,128 before they hit 2000 in a day, and if we assumed the same on the down slope (which is incredibly unlikely as shown by Italy it will be far more drawn out in middle numbers), that would add 26,256 dead. For a total of 90,636 dead.

Unfortunately, serious/critical went up as well today, which would suggest that unless a more effective treatment is found, we still haven’t seen peak daily deaths yet. Which means we could be seeing 2000+ a day for significantly longer than the next 15 days, and then your number of 140k looks a lot more likely. :scared:
I can’t believe these guys are still sticking to 60k to 70k. I hope I’m wrong.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
 

Post Ironic

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pavluska

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@JuveJay About what % of South Asians and blacks in the UK are below poverty line or low income earners?

I wonder how much vitamin D absorption & darker skin in cloudy England is affecting the disproportionality.


@Seven How would you have approached the Spanish flu? It targeted 18-25 age group.
 

acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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They keep updating their peak several days late, it was at 2000 in a day a week ago, then 2400 last week, and now they’re calling the peak 2671 deaths 6 days ago. Not sure how they don’t update their model immediately upon seeing a new peak. Like @Ronn said, their model is shit
A model is as good as the data you have available, which is where abysmal testing in the US comes into play. Also, iirc, these projections are for the best-case scenario going forward, assuming strict observance of the social distancing, stay-at-home rules, etc ...
Not to mention that repeating the lowest possible estimate, over and over again, has its political purposes.

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And Trump thinks the death toll won’t go past 60,000 :sergio:
When there were only 15 official cases in the US, Trump said they would magically go back to 0.
He knew it best before anybody else did, gotta give credit where it's due
 
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Post Ironic

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@JuveJay About what % of South Asians and blacks in the UK are below poverty line or low income earners?

I wonder how much vitamin D absorption & darker skin in cloudy England is affecting the disproportionality.


@Seven How would you have approached the Spanish flu? It targeted 18-25 age group.
“Fuck the 18-25 year olds. They all pinko commie bastards anyways. Must keep economy rolling for truly productive 30-65 year old members of society.” :seven:

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Nah it's cool apparently, the south is going to reopen.
It’s beyond bizarre. Florida already opened beaches, Georgia opening gyms and hair salons. Good places to reignite the pandemic in the dirty old south.
 
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acmilan

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Nov 8, 2005
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@JuveJay About what % of South Asians and blacks in the UK are below poverty line or low income earners?

I wonder how much vitamin D absorption & darker skin in cloudy England is affecting the disproportionality.


@Seven How would you have approached the Spanish flu? It targeted 18-25 age group.
No need to go 100 years back in time. The swine flu of about 10 years ago was considered deadlier in younger people, as well. The latest analysis I remember reading was that older people had developed at least partial immunity due to having lived longer lives and thus having encountered more strains of flu.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Imagine this happens to Zach overnight. Like in the Soutpark episode in which Cartman thinks he turned into a ginger.

Article says this too though:

"...However, a medic treating the urologist, Dr Li Shusheng, said he believed that both men's skin had turned darker as a result of the medicine they were first treated with upon their initial diagnosis."
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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Imagine this happens to Zach overnight. Like in the Soutpark episode in which Cartman thinks he turned into a ginger.

Article says this too though:

"...However, a medic treating the urologist, Dr Li Shusheng, said he believed that both men's skin had turned darker as a result of the medicine they were first treated with upon their initial diagnosis."
I liked this youtube comment:

It’s ok..

They’re now part of the “ Wu-Han Clan”

:rofl:
 

JuveJay

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@JuveJay About what % of South Asians and blacks in the UK are below poverty line or low income earners?

I wonder how much vitamin D absorption & darker skin in cloudy England is affecting.
Tends to proportionately be higher poverty rates for Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Africans, and lower for white British, Indian and what we call afro-Caribbean or black-Caribbean. Indians tend to be a fairly high proportion of middle class and above. Mercedes everywhere.

Ironically it's been very sunny for the past few weeks in England, but I don't know links to certain vitamins or how they affect the virus. You presume certain things help. I read a link between pollution and it's effects on rainfall. Certainly the air is a lot cleaner, would be some coincidence as March and April are notoriously rainy but hardly anything. We simply have too many cars flying about on this small island.
 

Seven

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@Seven How would you have approached the Spanish flu? It targeted 18-25 age group.
I think more and more evidence is surfacing that the Spanish flu had the impact it did because of WWI and an already weakened population, so I don't think this is the best example. But the death toll was estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million to 50 million so yeah, of course you'd have to take extreme measures. But isn't that the point I was making?

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“Fuck the 18-25 year olds. They all pinko commie bastards anyways. Must keep economy rolling for truly productive 30-65 year old members of society.” :seven:
That makes no sense within the framework of my argumentation whatsoever. My point is that corona kills a small portion of the old and weak. The Spanish Flu killed millions of the young and strong. My immediate response towards the Spanish Flu would obviously be that we would need to to everything possible, including shutting down the economy, to save that generation.

Also, the Spanish Flu took place in 1918-1919. I'm sure the vast majority of 18-25 year olds worked back then.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Tends to proportionately be higher poverty rates for Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Africans, and lower for white British, Indian and what we call afro-Caribbean or black-Caribbean. Indians tend to be a fairly high proportion of middle class and above. Mercedes everywhere.

Ironically it's been very sunny for the past few weeks in England, but I don't know links to certain vitamins or how they affect the virus. You presume certain things help. I read a link between pollution and it's effects on rainfall. Certainly the air is a lot cleaner, would be some coincidence as March and April are notoriously rainy but hardly anything. We simply have too many cars flying about on this small island.
First 10 docs who died from this in the UK were from ethnic minorities.

Seems this might have more to do with biological factors than socioeconomic ones.
 

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