Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (61 Viewers)

[Ronn]

Maybe. What about Italy?

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The thing is, with median incubation period being around 5 days, you would think 10 days to be enough to see a slowdown, but this is growing every day.

 

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[s4tch]

18? No way. Lockdown started in Jan 23rd. Total official cases were 830.

i read some english article a couple of days ago saying that the difference between the tested and positive cases' count and the number of actual infected people is huge, there might be at least 200 times more infected people than those who are confirmed positives. dunno how accurate this estimate was.

 

[Ronn]

it took a couple of days when people started to take the lockdown seriously, then they went panic shopping. that was probably the latest wave of mass infection. i wouldn't be surprised if the results of the lockdown started to show in an other week or two.

Good point. Sadly it also means US is following the same path. Supermarkets are like madhouses right now.

 

[Post Ironic]

Today I heard some Chinese who works for a red cross in Italy, he said he was left in shock when he saw so many people walking outside in Milano while almost nobody even wore a mask.

So yeah, I think it's the discipline. In China you had A TOTAL shutdown where nobody left the house for 40-50 days, bar going to the shop, literally. In Italy that was not the case and it's still not the case apparently.

China is also an authoritarian regime that brutally suppresses dissent. The authorities and population there are much more used to restricted freedoms, and the government is much more willing to use “oppressive” methodology.

There will always be boneheads who think this is overblown, a conspiracy, a hoax, etc. Look at Fox News and its followers until a few days ago... Coronavirus was an overblown conspiracy to get rid of Trump. It took the outbreak numbers skyrocketing for them to change their tune.

 

[Dostoevsky]

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The thing is, with median incubation period being around 5 days, you would think 10 days to be enough to see a slowdown, but this is growing every day.

That's the thing. Look at the Chinese numbers and so many deaths but they reacted 10x faster than Italy. It's still spreading, considering the incubation period.

I read some report from a girl that lived in a fucked up province in China. Nobody left their home for month and a half. I have many Chinese in my town, once the news popped up you just don't see them anywhere while my people walks around like nothing happened I think it's the different mindset and imo Italian is pretty much the same as ours. I heard from multiple sources how they didn't take it seriously up till 3 weeks ago. But that was already way too many infected. I don't think we'll see a slowdown in another week surely.

 

[Ronn]

i read some english article a couple of days ago saying that the difference between the tested and positive cases' count and the number of actual infected people is huge, there might be at least 200 times more infected people than those who are confirmed positives. dunno how accurate this estimate was.

I don’t know how they estimate it without knowing how widespread testing is, but that’s common sense that there are more cases than what the tests are telling you.

 

[Post Ironic]

i read some english article a couple of days ago saying that the difference between the tested and positive cases' count and the number of actual infected people is huge, there might be at least 200 times more infected people than those who are confirmed positives. dunno how accurate this estimate was.

I’ve read a couple of these articles too, positing anywhere from 3X the number of positive cases to 100X.

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I don’t know how they estimate it without knowing how widespread testing is, but that’s common sense that there are more cases than what the tests are telling you.

In America with how little testing has been done due to how few testing kits are available, one would have to imagine a massive disparity between reported cases and actual numbers.

 

[Ronn]

According to Cuomo NY tested 7500 individuals yesterday, of which ~1700 were positive. CDC site has the total numbers of tests so far at 33k. That should tell you how disastrous the decision to reject WHO’s tests was.

 

[Bjerknes]

It's time to lock NYC down. The longer it takes, the worse it will get.

 

[ALC]

According to Cuomo NY tested 7500 individuals yesterday, of which ~1700 were positive. CDC site has the total numbers of tests so far at 33k. That should tell you how disastrous the decision to reject WHO’s tests was.

lmao terrible numbers

thanks Obama

 

[Post Ironic]

lmao terrible numbers

thanks Obama

Trump still blaming Obama, eh? Lol

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According to Cuomo NY tested 7500 individuals yesterday, of which ~1700 were positive. CDC site has the total numbers of tests so far at 33k. That should tell you how disastrous the decision to reject WHO’s tests was.

‘Murica has to have ‘Murican made tests that are bigger, better, more beautiful.

 

[Ronn]

Trump still blaming Obama, eh? Lol

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‘Murica has to have ‘Murican made tests that are bigger, better, more beautiful.

That’s America First in action. MAGA!

 

[ALC]

Trump still blaming Obama, eh? Lol

And rightfully so. That tan suit wearing Muslim shit-stain could have prevented this if he had the good sense to create a pandemic response team. But no, he was probably too busy playing golf or something

 

[Post Ironic]

It’s almost shocking that Trump takes zero responsibility for defunding and shutting down the pandemic response team, refusing the WHO test kits, and three weeks ago claiming the Coronavirus wasn’t a big deal and America would have zero cases in a few more days.

Instead, no one could have ever seen a pandemic coming or be prepared for it and we should hope and pray for a miracle instead, and he always knew it was very serious and was the first to think it was a pandemic.

Then I remember it’s Donald Trump, and it’s no longer shocking at all.

@Bjerknes you voted for this, dude.

 

[pavluska]

Is the rate of infection in Italy not slowing down?

You can't go by death totals on day 10 when it can kill on day 14.

 

[Bjerknes]

It’s almost shocking that Trump takes zero responsibility for defunding and shutting down the pandemic response team, refusing the WHO test kits, and three weeks ago claiming the Coronavirus wasn’t a big deal and America would have zero cases in a few more days.

Instead, no one could have ever seen a pandemic coming or be prepared for it and we should hope and pray for a miracle instead, and he always knew it was very serious and was the first to think it was a pandemic.

Then I remember it’s Donald Trump, and it’s no longer shocking at all.

@Bjerknes you voted for this, dude.

If it isn't shocking to you, then you should be prepared for it, right?

 

[pavluska]

I don't think that's true. It's people walking down the streets thinking they are healthy but they are infected. Had they wore a mask they wouldn't spread it around (meaning they are in a range <1.5m from the other person).



China went on a total lockdown after 18 cases I think. Italy, when, after like 10.000?

Does mask make a diff if they aren't coughing?

 

[campionesidd]

I'm hearing so many conflicting reports and advice on the use of face masks.
Don't know which one is true.
Personally I am opting not to wear one and instead trying to avoid going out altogether (apart from buying groceries, food etc).

 

[Dostoevsky]

Does mask make a diff if they aren't coughing?

If they are not close to you (>1.5m) it makes no difference whether you have a mask or not. In a close situation it can make a difference, sometimes people spit and don't even notice it lol.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

These are the same people who don't vaccinate their kids?

Yes, though non-Jews are like that as well of course.

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Normal people should not even have masks, hospitals have desperate need for them.