[Coppa Italia] JUVENTUS 3-1 Napoli [28th February, 2017] (6 Viewers)

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JuveJay

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Did you think romas penal against inter was legit?
I've only seen the one angle, which seemed like a penalty at full speed. If you jump in and there is no absolute contact it's easy for the ref to give. I still can't see if that touch when Dzeko is trying to bring it down is either his or Medel's. Dzeko also makes the most of it.
 

GordoDeCentral

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I've only seen the one angle, which seemed like a penalty at full speed. If you jump in and there is no absolute contact it's easy for the ref to give. I still can't see if that touch when Dzeko is trying to bring it down is either his or Medel's. Dzeko also makes the most of it.
Imo that was less of a penal than this, medel got the ball and yes that was clumsy, what reina did was more body tackle that got a little bit of the ball imo
 

napoleonic

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just saw the highlights :lol:

dybala dived :lol:
higuain fluke goal :lol:
napoli penalty not given and then only 5 seconds later we got another penalty :lol:

is there calciopoli 2 yet? :rofl:
 

lgorTudor

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Reina hacked Cuad from the side from full speed, lol. Reina never was in control of the ball, despite touching it first. Clearest penal there is.

Those cases of players jumping over keepers are completely different because keepers either gain full control of the ball or clear it far away so it the striker could never get possession again
 

Stevie

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If a defender gets his foot on the ball first then uses his hands to shove the other player causimg him to fall over then it would be a foul so its no different in this class. Clear penalty.

Also If he didnt take out Cuad after touching the ball then Cuad may of been able to avoid falling over and would of been clear on goal.
 

Ocelot

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Just wanted to say that there's no possible way this could've gone better than two penalties and a Higuain goal :heart:

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I had no idea we played today :lol:
Fuck I just realized I was watching the wrong video. The penalty on Dybala wasn't the one from today.

You know what, I give up :lol: following football isn't something I can manage to do right now. See yall next month.
:rofl:

Get your shit together Crimmy :D

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Napoli: 'Shameful ref decisions'
By Football Italia staff

Napoli director Cristiano Giuntoli said the Juventus penalties in the Coppa Italia semi-final were “shameful and damaging to all of Italian football.”

The Partenopei had taken the lead through Jose Callejon, but after the break Juve ended up winning 3-1 with a Gonzalo Higuain strike and two contentious penalties.

Napoli were so infuriated by the situation that they broke their Press silence.

“We thought it important to publicly thank the lads for their performance and to say we emerge defeated by two decisions that were not debatable, but shameful and damaging to all of Italian football,” Giuntoli told Rai Sport.

“On the first penalty, Dybala knocks the ball on and seeks contact for the penalty. I thought the first one was frankly more of a spot-kick, but watching the replay this one isn’t right either. The striker goes looking for the contact.

“On the second Reina gets the ball, then he certainly cannot disappear and thus contacts the player too. What’s more, that happened after a penalty was not given to us, considering that two of them knocked down one of our players.

“The decisions were shameful.”

Napoli only spoke to RAI Sport with the agreement they would not have any response from the studio.

The official Twitter account of the club also noted: “If you watch the game on RAI, turn the sound down.”



Napoli trying to emulate Donald.
This is what I was waiting for :touched:
 

Vialli_92

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I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?
The rules state nothing about winning the ball when it comes to a foul.

If the ref deems the challenge to be careless or reckless then a foul must be given.

If Reina had of got more of the ball then it would not have probably been given as a penalty but Cuadrado was clean through on goal and Reina brought him down without getting enough of the ball to stop him from scoring.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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Napoli lose heads in Turin
Gaby McKay for Football Italia



Napoli had the situation under control in Turin, but even if refereeing decisions made them angry, there was no excuse for completely losing their heads. Being a big team means having the mentality to ride out a storm.

“You know why the Yankees always win, Frank?” asks Leonardo Di Caprio’s Frank Abagnale Jr in 'Catch Me If You Can’. “'Cause they have Mickey Mantle?” replies Christopher Walken’s Frank Abagnale Sr. “No, it's because the other teams can't stop staring at those damn pinstripes.”

Juventus aren’t unbeaten in Turin since August 2015 on reputation only. The Bianconeri are a winning machine, as evidenced by their five consecutive Scudetti. But the first leg of the Coppa Italia semi-final underlined Frank Jr’s point.

The first half was a fairly timid affair, with the Partenopei having the best of it. With the Old Lady looking unsteady on her feet in a 3-4-3 shape, Maurizio Sarri’s men deservedly took the lead through Jose Callejon. Here was the opportunity to not only put Napoli in the driving seat in the tie, but to provide a blueprint to beating Juve on home turf.

As so often happens though, the Bianconeri’s challengers were their own worst enemies. Napoli couldn’t stop staring at those damn black and white stripes.

Max Allegri changed things at half-time, introducing Juan Cuadrado in place of the angry but ineffective Stephan Lichtsteiner. It was an attacking change, but Maurizio Sarri’s men did the host’s work for them. Kalidou Koulibaly, so imperious in the first-half, dived in to a tackle he didn’t need to make. Paulo Dybala may have been theatrical, but the Senegal international had no need to make such a rash tackle and couldn’t complain when the whistle went for a penalty.

Dybala dusted himself down and dispatched the spot kick, but the Partenopei were still firmly in the game and, more importantly, the tie. Unfortunately, perhaps consumed by the narrative of the Juve penalty, Sarri’s side lost their heads.

Pepe Reina had been outstanding in the first half, but inexplicably came out for a cross he was never getting to and allowed Gonzalo Higuain to put the hosts in front. The Argentinian didn’t celebrate, but in reality he could have spit on a picture of Sophia Loren and booted a Diego Maradona doll into the crowd, Neapolitans wouldn't hate him any less.

Reina is a better goalkeeper and Napoli are a better side than they showed in conceding that goal, but it appears the hysteria around beating Juve can have an effect. Look at last season, before Higuain committed the ultimate betrayal.

The Partenopei, the Scudetto slipping away from them, were beaten 3-1 at Udinese, with Pipita sent-off, losing his cool and pushing the referee. Say what you like about the Bianconeri, they keep their heads when it matters.

As if to underline the point, the Vesuviani saw a credible claim for a penalty waved away when Raul Albiol went down under the challenge of Miralem Pjanic. It wasn’t a stonewaller, but the Neapolitans had every right to feel aggrieved.

However, a grievance doesn’t give licence to abandon all logical thought. Somewhat inevitably, Cuadrado raced up the other end and was brought down by Reina, with Dybala getting his second of the night.

Controversy will inevitably rage about the officiating, but the truth is that Napoli had the game under control at half-time. Even with the early second-half penalty, the away goals rule means a 1-1 draw would have been a decent result.

Instead they lost their heads, and allowed their most hated rivals to put another two goals past them, leaving the Partenopei with a mountain to climb at the San Paolo. It’s not beyond them, far from it, but it needn’t have been such a difficult task.

A cool-headed Napoli could have defended their fortress with an advantage in the tie. Now they must chase a result against the most ruthless team in Italy. Catch them if you can.
The salty comments under that Football Italia article :lol: :touched: :

"Reina did get the ball. More alternative facts by shameless rube fans. Like calciopoli. A history of cheating, that is the Agnellis legacy"

"What do you expecte from the cheats? No one showed footage of Bonucci stomping on the crotone player the other week, 2 pens denied just 3 days after the disgraceful reffs in the inter game. The whole system is corrupt. That reff tonight was waiting to screw Napoli. Why do Juve never look strong in Europe? No Italian reffs. They play terrible football then get bailed out by reffs. Rubentus ,Shame of Italian football"

"what a stupid article! obviously she didn't see the match. Neither penalty should have been given. Unbelievable refereeing as usual when juve are concerned. It's a disgrace and shameful on Italian football as it seems to be every week there is controversy when rube play."

"Another stellar performance by the ref's, 2016-17 is proving to be a pivotal season for them, another big game, another big win by juve, another big win by juve with ref controversy. It must really suck to not be able to win these big games without having to defend themselves from not being favoured by refs post match, looks more exausting then theyre actual play on the field lol"

"Just continue to defend corrupted system, let's pretend that everything is normal and that one sided refereeing in case of some teams is right and mistakes can happen to favour some teams constantly, and to damage some teams constantly. Kudos to Juve players, Roma players, they must be furious with referees."


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: @Mark
 

king Ale

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Your romanitis is getting worrisome here :D watch a good quality replay
In fact in the very video you posted, 1:41, clear foul.

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Just wanted to say that there's no possible way this could've gone better than two penalties and a Higuain goal :heart:
Nah I see no good in it. Will put extra pressure on the refs to not give our calls unless they are 100% sure about them.
 

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