[Coppa Italia] JUVENTUS 3-1 Napoli [28th February, 2017] (2 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

He got a hand to the ball but he didnt get it clear. If he didn't bring Cuadrado down, there's a good chance the latter would have got it back and scored.

 

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[Valerio.]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

he did not get the ball. Just grazed it once it passed behind his hands. And still the ball was still there if he didn't crush Cuadrado.

 

[Gep]

I'm trying to find some footage

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

He can go for the ball and the player at the same time, in this case he got very little of the ball and a lot of the player, clumsy, clear pk

 

[Dostoevsky]

No way first one was a penalty.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm trying to find some footage

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No way first one was a penalty.

Your romanitis is getting worrisome here watch a good quality replay

 

[JuveJay]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

That's how I always understood it, although there also has to be a bit of common sense - the ball has to go far enough away with that touch. A last man tackle from an outfield player would be the same. Am I confident Cuadrado would have scored from the wider angle? Not at all. Still, I think it's almost impossible for a keeper there. Does he have to intercept and collect the ball, does he have to push it out of play, or can getting a touch taking the ball very wide be enough? It seems he's restricted to either collecting the ball or trying to stand up an attacker given what has been said here, with the latter almost impossible given the differences in momentum.

 

[DAiDEViL]

No way first one was a penalty.

https://youtu.be/z3OapvAMGok?t=28s

 

[zizinho]

This is in line with FIFA recommendations.

It says that "If an Assistant Referee is not totally sure about an offside offence, the flag should not be raised".

Usually, in these close calls, the flag stays down, which is fine.

Yep, Asa should have kept the line, he can see both Bonucci and Chiellini from there and there was no reason for him to run back

 

[DUKAC]

No way first one was a penalty.

Before that statement watch again ,best in slow motion how Koulibaly steps Dybala's foot.End of story.

 

[JuveJay]

The more I look at that Cuadrado one it looks more of a penalty, Reina's contact isn't clean and the ball has barely gone anywhere.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Your romanitis is getting worrisome here watch a good quality replay

https://youtu.be/z3OapvAMGok?t=28s

He barely touched him and he fell like a rocket hit him.

Second one was a penalty tho.

 

[JuveJay]

No way first one was a penalty.

Dybala made the most of it but his foot was stepped on, that affects momentum a lot. Wasn't some kind of scandal like Napoli try to make out to cover their loser asses, but I've seen us not get that call more times than not. Put it this way, we've had far more obvious ones not given, which is why I couldn't give a shit about getting a soft pen here or there.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Listen to the unbiased commentary

 

[Boksic]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

I'm not sure about the one on Cuadrado. What Reina did is what any goalkeeper would have done. He went for the ball and managed to touch it, the collision was inevitable. For a gk there's isn't much to be done about that, the player usually jumps and gets out of the way.

About the one on Dybala. $#@! yes, that was a penalty and probably a red card. Could have easily broken his leg.

That's the way I see it, if the keeper gets to the ball first he can be annoyed at the foul. I would if it was against Juve.

But I can certainly see the point that he may not have got enough on the ball and Cuadrado could have continued if not taken down.

 

[DAiDEViL]

He barely touched him and he fell like a rocket hit him.

Second one was a penalty tho.

agreed, but he still stepped on Dybalas foot.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

He barely touched him and he fell like a rocket hit him.

Second one was a penalty tho.

It's 100% a foul, ergo a penalty

 

[JuveJay]

Listen to the unbiased commentary

I watched this coverage live on tv, and whilst the co-commentator said it was a clear penalty for a long while once a few different replays came out he started to question himself a bit. I don't think it's a clear one as has been made out either way.

 

[B3N]

I haven't seen the 2nd pen incident. But regardless, I thought if the keeper gets the ball before the man then it's not a pen. What's the keeper suppose to do? Not go for it?

He didn't. His main focus was to take out Cuad. Usually keepers position to avoid the attacker as much as they can while getting a hand on the ball. This cunt jumped in and then locked him self around Cuadrados left leg as he was escaping the challenge.
It's Juve so they know they can rush in to challenges, and if they called out on it, just play the victim card.

 

[Boksic]

The more I look at that Cuadrado one it looks more of a penalty, Reina's contact isn't clean and the ball has barely gone anywhere.

Thinking the same, when I first saw it I thought he got more on the ball.