Copa America 2019 - General Discussion (6 Viewers)

[ColloRosso]

@CrimsonianKing

 

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[DAiDEViL]

This was the first time Jesus didn't look like a mediocre bum when i watch him play.

 

[Seven]

It’s nothing to do with that as I couldn’t care less if Brazil lost the final. If you haven’t noticed the only thing I cared about was beating Argentina as it’s a must and it being proved one more time Messi is a sore loser. Every time a new excuse for his failings. Those were my grudges.

10 years from now people will realize he became who he is not only because of talent but because of Guardiola’s almost unbeatable system with Xavi and Iniesta. And it’ll also be clear Ronaldo was the best of his generation.

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I guess he forgot to call the referee shit when the guy was awarding his team a penalty against Paraguay.

Your team won one of the most important football games in the world, Argentina - Brazil will always be a classic.

Rather than be happy about the accomplishment of your own team, you want to spend this moment of joy bashing the opponent you just beat. Knowing full well that on any given day that opponent could beat you too and that, when that day comes, you will want him to show grace.

There is no excuse for your behaviour.

 

[ColloRosso]

Is the interview legit?
Tried to find some other source to confirm it, but nothing came up.
It seems very unprofessional if true.

There you go:



"No fueran nunca al VAR" "El arbitro inclino la cancha" "El arbitro no fue justo"

"Ojalá la Conmebol haga algo, aunque no creo que haga nada PORQUE BRASIL MANEJA TODO, es muy complicado"

 

[kappa96]

There you go:



"No fueran nunca al VAR" "El arbitro inclino la cancha" "El arbitro no fue justo"

"Ojalá la Conmebol haga algo, aunque no creo que haga nada PORQUE BRASIL MANEJA TODO, es muy complicado"

Pretty lame from him especially since they got that made up penalty in the Paraguay match.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

That's the guy. I'd rather hit myself in the nuts repeatedly with a ball peen hammer than listen to 10 minutes of that.



Maybe so until he goes on his Messi fits.



Does Hudson fap to any other footballers or just Messi?

He does, all the time. He used to LOVE Coman when he was here, I specifically remember that. He always speaks very highly of us.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Your team won one of the most important football games in the world, Argentina - Brazil will always be a classic.

Rather than be happy about the accomplishment of your own team, you want to spend this moment of joy bashing the opponent you just beat. Knowing full well that on any given day that opponent could beat you too and that, when that day comes, you will want him to show grace.

There is no excuse for your behaviour.

What the fuck are you talking about? What behavior? Do you see me attacking on Argies in general? Or the ones who are members here? This is not about Argentina, although as said before to beat them is a must, it’s about Messi. One player. Not Argentina or the people there from. It’s about the most overhyped player of all time (the only “all time” award I’ll give him), and how he whines and finds excuses for his shit performances and failures. Retiring and coming back? Twice? Get the Fuck out of here.

Besides a strong Argentina means a better shot at bringing a WC trophy to SA once again, because no other SA NT will even get close if it’s not us or them... Or at the very least a tougher competition in this tournament for us.

 

[HAZEM]

i have one opinion about messi and ronaldo bullshit, even though am not a big fan of these duality of these individuals.

just my humble opinion.

Messi is a one the greatest players in what he does. but lets be clear the guy he creates 99% goal chances every match in a very high rate. this is his job. and he is the best in doing this.

i would say the same for pirlo, pirlo is more a genius of messi because he gives the team 99% goal chances every game to score goals, playing in more difficult position to do so.

but players like Pirlo and Messi they depend on the fuckin' the player who receives the ball in order to convert the last 1% into a goal.


then we have Ronaldo, and here is the twist. Ronaldo on the other hand. he could play with bunch of retards and only needs 1% chances to convert the 99% by himself into a goal.


Ronaldo is just a smart hard working dude who knew how to make the difference and worked his ass to perfect this 1%. messi is the greatest player in his position. but his super powers stops on others. even though sometimes he is able to do all the work by himself. but not all the time.

 

[kappa96]

i have one opinion about messi and ronaldo bullshit, even though am not a big fan of these duality of these individuals.

just my humble opinion.

Messi is a one the greatest players in what he does. but lets be clear the guy he creates 99% goal chances every match in a very high rate. this is his job. and he is the best in doing this.

i would say the same for pirlo, pirlo is more a genius of messi because he gives the team 99% goal chances every game to score goals, playing in more difficult position to do so.

but players like Pirlo and Messi they depend on the fuckin' the player who receives the ball in order to convert the last 1% into a goal.


then we have Ronaldo, and here is the twist. Ronaldo on the other hand. he could play with bunch of retards and only needs 1% chances to convert the 99% by himself into a goal.


Ronaldo is just a smart hard working dude who knew how to make the difference and worked his ass to do so. messi is a greatest player in his position. but his super powers stops on others. even though sometimes he is able to do all the work by himself. but not all the time.

I read some opinion coming from a Barca fan that said : Messi thrives as long as there isn't any kind of physicality involved.That's why in the past years when Barca was eliminated , it was always by teams that played a physical game.
Liverpool Roma Juventus Atletico Madrid all eliminated them playing that way.The secret is not to allow him any time on the ball and hound him everywhere on the pitch.
He also thrives in La Liga because of that and I doubt that he would have that kind of output in seria a for example. Just look at dybala , he doesn't have any kind of time on the ball and usually when he tries to take defenders on or succeeds in doing so he will end up on the ground ,more times then not.
Dybala would thrive in La Liga where the game is played more on a technical level.
Ronaldo doesn't have this problem.He proved this again this year.He seems to adapt anywhere thx to his work ethic and huge confidence. Mentally he is on another level.
Also that fan said that he would take ronaldo in big matches and cl any day before messi.

 

[Wittl]

It’s crazy how much hate Messi gets here. Calls out the refs for being shitty and gets called a sore loser while if Ronaldo has done that, everyone here would be riding his nuts.

Messi is incredible, enjoy his greatness while you can.

..or Buffon.

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This was the first time Jesus didn't look like a mediocre bum when i watch him play.

Baby Jesus? ...this reminds me of @pitbull ..where he at? Do you know something @Kyle ?

 

[HAZEM]

I read some opinion coming from a Barca fan that said : Messi thrives as long as there isn't any kind of physicality involved.That's why in the past years when Barca was eliminated , it was always by teams that played a physical game.
Liverpool Roma Juventus Atletico Madrid all eliminated them playing that way.The secret is not to allow him any time on the ball and hound him everywhere on the pitch.
He also thrives in La Liga because of that and I doubt that he would have that kind of output in seria a for example. Just look at dybala , he doesn't have any kind of time on the ball and usually when he tries to take defenders on or succeeds in doing so he will end up on the ground ,more times then not.
Dybala would thrive in La Liga where the game is played more on a technical level.
Ronaldo doesn't have this problem.He proved this again this year.He seems to adapt anywhere thx to his work ethic and huge confidence. Mentally he is on another level.
Also that fan said that he would take ronaldo in big matches and cl any day before messi.

i agree on this, its clear to me that, messi is just one of the best on his position. but i don't expect something crazy if they put him out of the game. on the other hand. players like pirlo and ronaldo. they surpasses the limitations.

pirlo to me is more of a wander kid compared to messi.


i would prefer a team of Pirlo and bunch of soldiers around him and Ronaldo in the attack. 100% win


and its a shame and disgrace, that Pirlo didn't win ballon d'or

 

[ColloRosso]

i agree on this, its clear to me that, messi is just one of the best on his position. but i don't expect something crazy if they put him out of the game. on the other hand. players like pirlo and ronaldo. they surpasses the limitations.

pirlo to me is more of a wander kid compared to messi.


i would prefer a team of Pirlo and bunch of soldiers around him and Ronaldo in the attack. 100% win


and its a shame and disgrace, that Pirlo didn't win ballon d'or

Now you know what Iniesta felt in 2010

 

[HAZEM]

Now you know what Iniesta felt in 2010

anything italian doesn't win with these corrupted FIFA
its a shame. 2006 and 2015 should have been for pirlo.

 

[ColloRosso]

I read some opinion coming from a Barca fan that said : Messi thrives as long as there isn't any kind of physicality involved.That's why in the past years when Barca was eliminated , it was always by teams that played a physical game.
Liverpool Roma Juventus Atletico Madrid all eliminated them playing that way.The secret is not to allow him any time on the ball and hound him everywhere on the pitch.
He also thrives in La Liga because of that and I doubt that he would have that kind of output in seria a for example. Just look at dybala , he doesn't have any kind of time on the ball and usually when he tries to take defenders on or succeeds in doing so he will end up on the ground ,more times then not.
Dybala would thrive in La Liga where the game is played more on a technical level.
Ronaldo doesn't have this problem.He proved this again this year.He seems to adapt anywhere thx to his work ethic and huge confidence. Mentally he is on another level.
Also that fan said that he would take ronaldo in big matches and cl any day before messi.

The truth is playing in Barça's backyard is not the same as playing in a national team.

The truth is also that he would be a talented player in any world league, but it would not be the same quality elsewhere than a team that plays for him since 10 years ago, always assisted by Xaviniestas, and against those same opponents of Leganes and Eibar week in week out.

Cristiano is better than it because it is more plural. There's no doubt. He left the Portugal in a team which he didn't even counted as an asset and proved what he is England. In Spain he broke everything and already old will still show it in Italy with certainty that the European projection of Juventus of Sarri will not only be for the Scudetto.

Messi is Messi in Barcelona for La Liga and period.

Ronaldo always.

 

[GiocataGrande]

I just hate anyone who believes this guy is the best there ever was. It’s always been a ridiculous thought.

And hey, how many more excuses will he come up with? The pitch is bad? Players are too tough on him? Brazil owns Conmebol? VAR is the reason he can’t perform well? Or maybe he will retire... and come back again?

Look, along with Ronaldo he’s the best player of his generation but he’s also the only one of “the greats” who is unable to win anything outside his comfort zone. The only one! Greatest of all time m y a s s !

Thats fine. Thats ur opinion. What I don't get is the constant obsession with constant bashing on him. Just seems a bit too hateful.

Also , Dani Alves agrees.

https://www.givemesport.com/1487297...iticism-of-referee-during-brazil-20-argentina

 

[ColloRosso]

"The referee was more nervous than us, I understand Leo,"

"agrees"


Good clickbait

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Ask him if he agrees with the penalty against Paraguay.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I just hate anyone who believes this guy is the best there ever was. It’s always been a ridiculous thought.

And hey, how many more excuses will he come up with? The pitch is bad? Players are too tough on him? Brazil owns Conmebol? VAR is the reason he can’t perform well? Or maybe he will retire... and come back again?

Look, along with Ronaldo he’s the best player of his generation but he’s also the only one of “the greats” who is unable to win anything outside his comfort zone. The only one! Greatest of all time m y a s s !

Imagine rating Pele over him or any other overweight bum who played in the Brazilian bush league 50 years ago

in before "but but players today couldn't hack it in muh brazil bush league cause they would get kicked too much by fat smoking dwarves"

imagine Messi playing in an era where the opposing team had two defenders. a team with two defenders against fucking Messi? you could make him play blindfolded and he could still beat two defenders more often than not.

 

[GiocataGrande]

i have one opinion about messi and ronaldo bullshit, even though am not a big fan of these duality of these individuals.

just my humble opinion.

Messi is a one the greatest players in what he does. but lets be clear the guy he creates 99% goal chances every match in a very high rate. this is his job. and he is the best in doing this.

i would say the same for pirlo, pirlo is more a genius of messi because he gives the team 99% goal chances every game to score goals, playing in more difficult position to do so.

but players like Pirlo and Messi they depend on the fuckin' the player who receives the ball in order to convert the last 1% into a goal.


then we have Ronaldo, and here is the twist. Ronaldo on the other hand. he could play with bunch of retards and only needs 1% chances to convert the 99% by himself into a goal.


Ronaldo is just a smart hard working dude who knew how to make the difference and worked his ass to perfect this 1%. messi is the greatest player in his position. but his super powers stops on others. even though sometimes he is able to do all the work by himself. but not all the time.

Pretty much sums it up. Good post.

There is also a element of margins and luck involved here , especially considering the trophies both players have achieved which is often the biggest way people measure players.

 

[ColloRosso]

Imagine rating Pele over him or any other overweight bum who played in the Brazilian bush league 50 years ago

in before "but but players today couldn't hack it in muh brazil bush league cause they would get kicked too much by fat smoking dwarves"

imagine Messi playing in an era where the opposing team had two defenders. a team with two defenders against fucking Messi? you could make him play blindfolded and he could still beat two defenders more often than not.

Messi wouldn't play back then. There was no HGH.


Checkmate.