Copa America 2019 - General Discussion (44 Viewers)
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good point
i am not a big fan of both and actually i don't enjoy much their style of game play. but Ronaldo amazes me with moments of being surrounded by hopelessness and people losing trust in his team.
note: i enjoy slower elegant style of players like the 90's with some innovative creative dribbles.
Zidane, Del Piero, Pirlo, Aimar, Pogba, Roy Costa, Camoranesi, Dennis Bergkamp etc...
note: i enjoy slower elegant style of players like the 90's with some innovative creative dribbles.
Zidane, Del Piero, Pirlo, Aimar, Pogba, Roy Costa, Camoranesi, Dennis Bergkamp etc...
There is also another difference:
Cristiano doesn’t need to be the “creator” of game in a team. If you look his stats, he doesn’t touch the ball more than 30 times. This are a striker stats. But this is, in my opinion, a virtue more than a deffect. Most of the big players want to be protagonist, want to have the posession of the ball. Cristiano don’t need that, he just touch the ball and run to the area (where he is the greatest and more intelligent player with no doubts of the history). This makes the team more confident of themselves. Maybe it’s sounds stupid, but it is true. They can play without the pressure of making protagonist or depending on someone else to create football. So CR7 not only makes the 1% into 99% as you said but he also gives the opportunity to other players to be more protagonis and give theire best. Messi no. Messi never had a bad team in Argentina as everybody says. Yes, Barça team is better, true. But Argentina is not a bad team. Agüero, Di Maria (nowadays, yes he is a disaster), Otamendi, Armani, Lo Celso, Mascherano, Riquelme, Zanetti, Verón, Milito, Lautaro Martinez and more good players have played with him in the national team. This creates another difference: CR7 can play in any style of football: posession, counter-attack, deffensive style, direct play, etc. Messi can not do that cause of his style of play.
Maybe my arguments are stupid, but i only know we have an incredible instrument for our team and we need this year, yes or yes, to use it well. Hope Sarri (still don’t like him) knows how to use him well.
Cristiano doesn’t need to be the “creator” of game in a team. If you look his stats, he doesn’t touch the ball more than 30 times. This are a striker stats. But this is, in my opinion, a virtue more than a deffect. Most of the big players want to be protagonist, want to have the posession of the ball. Cristiano don’t need that, he just touch the ball and run to the area (where he is the greatest and more intelligent player with no doubts of the history). This makes the team more confident of themselves. Maybe it’s sounds stupid, but it is true. They can play without the pressure of making protagonist or depending on someone else to create football. So CR7 not only makes the 1% into 99% as you said but he also gives the opportunity to other players to be more protagonis and give theire best. Messi no. Messi never had a bad team in Argentina as everybody says. Yes, Barça team is better, true. But Argentina is not a bad team. Agüero, Di Maria (nowadays, yes he is a disaster), Otamendi, Armani, Lo Celso, Mascherano, Riquelme, Zanetti, Verón, Milito, Lautaro Martinez and more good players have played with him in the national team. This creates another difference: CR7 can play in any style of football: posession, counter-attack, deffensive style, direct play, etc. Messi can not do that cause of his style of play.
Maybe my arguments are stupid, but i only know we have an incredible instrument for our team and we need this year, yes or yes, to use it well. Hope Sarri (still don’t like him) knows how to use him well.
Its like Sir Alex said years ago that you can stick Ronaldo in huddersfield,millwall or any rubbish team and he will score hatricks becauses hes two footed,quick,beast in the air and brave etc. you dont need to change ur whole team or system to fit ronaldo in, you cant do that with messi he needs a certain system and to hog the ball as much as possible . Messi could never come here and play with a striker like mario for example.
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if there's a player who's capable of creating the game better than ronaldo is, let me know. and no, messi with a ball doesn't create even half of what ronaldo creates without the ball, it can be proved just by looking at how much every player spends the time with the ball compared to without. if ronaldo spends 95% of the game without the ball, he has way more time to create space with his runs, with his movement, with his presence and so on compared to messi, who has the ball let's say 10% of the game. there's no way you can pass the ball to anybody if they're standing still, that off the ball movement creates things and with the ball, you execute it. on top of that, ronaldo is best at executing those chances with the 5% he spends on the ball.
simple as that.
simple as that.
