Claudio Ranieri (53 Viewers)

[Ahmed]

whats the after?

 

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[v1rtu4l]

whats the after?

in german it's some part of your body that does not smell that good, but in the post it's him after growing longer hair and becoming an actor (even reminds me of jonny depp in pirates of the carribean)

 

[Vinman]

all that i know. . is that a prefer this juve with poulsen and marchisios. . . than a chelsea or man city tipe juve. . .

that makes one of us

http://www.icbernareggio.it/ragazzi/juventus/images/paramatti.jpg
do you remember him? he was just awfull like molinaro. . . and he was on lippis team

he was sent packing pretty fast

i think he's a gondola driver in Venice now

 

[Bjerknes]

You wouldn't want billionaires controlling our club like a video game, Vinni. Trust me, some of these guys use clubs as little play toys.

I'd prefer we go the same way as we always have, with better directors.

 

[Vinman]

You wouldn't want billionaires controlling our club like a video game, Vinni. Trust me, some of these guys use clubs as little play toys.

I'd prefer we go the same way as we always have, with better directors.

Chelsea havent done too badly....and I expect Man City to do pretty

in the meantime, we do need better directors

 

[Alen]

You wouldn't want billionaires controlling our club like a video game, Vinni.

Sometimes it works. Look at Milan with Berlusconi for example. He bought the club, he broke all transfer world records, including the ones he set. You could also say that he controls his team like a video game. The coach asks for certain players while Berlusconi buys different players, the ones he likes.
Yet, it's been more than 20 years and he didn't give up on the team. His billions made Milan one of the most successful teams in football history.
But that's perhaps because he loves the club and loved it even before he earned those millions.

With Chelsea we're yet to see how it'll work, but so far it's good.

The problem is that we couldn't possibly know the intentions of those who buy the club.
But if guys like you and me (who love Juve) buy the club and start spending 150m eur in a transfer window, i doubt you'll mind, right ?

 

[Bjerknes]

Sometimes it works. Look at Milan with Berlusconi for example. He bought the club, he broke all transfer world records, including the ones he set. You could also say that he controls his team like a video game. The coach asks for certain players while Berlusconi buys different players, the ones he likes.
Yet, it's been more than 20 years and he didn't give up on the team. His billions made Milan one of the most successful teams in football history.
But that's perhaps because he loves the club and loved it even before he earned those millions.

With Chelsea we're yet to see how it'll work, but so far it's good.

The problem is that we couldn't possibly know the intentions of those who buy the club.
But if guys like you and me (who love Juve) buy the club and start spending 150m eur in a transfer window, i doubt you'll mind, right ?

That big IF is such a talking point, however. It honestly depends on the intentions of the club, as you said. If they really love the club and will do anything to secure it's traditions, then OK with me. But if the club becomes a play toy for whatever firm takes over, screw that.

PS - Get on Facebook, Alen. We already have one Croat Alen on there, so you should too. Juve fans. :hug:

 

[GordoDeCentral]

the real problem is when man city offers 200 mil euros for kaka(the price tag of many epl sides) sending finacial shockwaves throughout serie A in which case we will need some bored billionaire or two.

 

[Alen]

Chelsea havent done too badly....and I expect Man City to do pretty

It's still early to make the final conclusion.
Like i said, it's different with Berlusconi. Milan is like a child to him. Plus, it's in Italy and it helped him, and it's still helping him, with his political career.

Abramovich is a different case. England was an escape from Putin and Khodorkovsky's destiny. You'd never know if something will be changed in Russia and he won't need England and Chelsea anymore.
Not to mention the Arabs and Man City. These guys can decide to stop funding the team just like that and then Chelsea and City we'll be really fucked.

I don't like short-term thinking. It will be nice to have someone investing hundreds of millions but 3/5, even 10 years of succes won't be worthy of 20 years of recovery.

I know that you don't like what our directors have been doing. None of us likes it, i believe. But it doesn't mean that we should sell ourselves to the first guy who'll promise us the moon.

 

[Bjerknes]

the real problem is when man city offers 200 mil euros for kaka(the price tag of many epl sides) sending finacial shockwaves throughout serie A in which case we will need some bored billionaire or two.

But doesn't that cause an overpriced market, thus sending the sustainability of such prices down the tube? Inflation will be through the roof so what that says to me is a decline in clubs who don't have capital, ie everybody out of the top five in England..

 

[GordoDeCentral]

But doesn't that cause an overpriced market, thus sending the sustainability of such prices down the tube? Inflation will be through the roof so what that says to me is a decline in clubs who don't have capital, ie everybody out of the top five in England..

not necessarily theres a famous saying from the depression era "i d rather pay 200$ for bread then have bread at 2 cents and not have those 2 cents".

with an extra 200 million milan will be unstoppable, inter will want to keep up leaving us behind. You dont try to beat the market you try to win with the market.

 

[Bjerknes]

not necessarily theres a famous saying from the depression era "i d rather pay 200$ for bread then have bread at 2 cents and not have those 2 cents".

with an extra 200 million milan will be unstoppable, inter will want to keep up leaving us behind. You dont try to beat the market you try to win with the market.

But we can't afford that stuff, and neither can Milan at least, no matter how rich Berlusca happens to be.

But good simple advice with your last sentence.

 

[V]

Sometimes it works. Look at Milan with Berlusconi for example. He bought the club, he broke all transfer world records, including the ones he set. You could also say that he controls his team like a video game. The coach asks for certain players while Berlusconi buys different players, the ones he likes.
Yet, it's been more than 20 years and he didn't give up on the team. His billions made Milan one of the most successful teams in football history.
But that's perhaps because he loves the club and loved it even before he earned those millions.

I hope that's the last time I see you writing about Milan, and/or Berlusconi, in a positive tone.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

Depends on what you really want. Sure, football's a good business, but we've had a long history with the Agnellis and tradition and it's these things that kept players like Del Piero and Nedved in our team. I agree that this board can't run Juve for nuts, but I feel if you let an Abramovich run Juve, you lose that personal touch and connection, and there's no real relationship between the players and the club. It's just business. Which, sadly, it is now.

 

[Amaurisimo]

not necessarily theres a famous saying from the depression era "i d rather pay 200$ for bread then have bread at 2 cents and not have those 2 cents".

with an extra 200 million milan will be unstoppable, inter will want to keep up leaving us behind. You dont try to beat the market you try to win with the market.

very true, well done

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

a question

is that prick Gheddafi still a shareholder?

 

[Ahmed]

I think so...

 

[Cronios]

You wouldn't want billionaires controlling our club like a video game, Vinni. Trust me, some of these guys use clubs as little play toys.

I'd prefer we go the same way as we always have, with better directors.

But that doesnt means that our current management do any better now.
A billionaire could do it for fun, meaning on purpose, but those guys are doing the same out of ignorance...
Hopefully we will find a better permanent solution but if the situation goes own this way, i would prefer to gamble and take an unknown billionaire, because it cant get any worse, anyways...

 

[- vOnAm -]

Depends on what you really want. Sure, football's a good business, but we've had a long history with the Agnellis and tradition and it's these things that kept players like Del Piero and Nedved in our team. I agree that this board can't run Juve for nuts, but I feel if you let an Abramovich run Juve, you lose that personal touch and connection, and there's no real relationship between the players and the club. It's just business. Which, sadly, it is now.

I would say Abramovich is the bored billionaire type. Chelsea wont be making much profit in the near future, and yes, if the big guy leaves they are fvcked coz Im pretty sure their books are on the negative and only increase of investment is keeping them up. Only once their fan base and image is big enough to support their spending will they be stable enough to be left behind by their billionaire owner.
But by then, even if they offload a few players, they will be better off, with better recent history.

Personally I wouldn't mind a billionaire taking Juventus, whether they love football or just want to be in the limelight.

 

[Red]

a question

is that prick Gheddafi still a shareholder?

I think the Libyans were looking to sell up in the immediate aftermath of Calciopoli, but I'm not sure they actually sold the shares.