Claudio Ranieri (79 Viewers)

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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im pretty sure real juve fans dont settle for bullshit losses and draws so im not sure what your talking about.

its like ranieri goes and has 3 good games and then 4 bad ones, like one step forward and two backwards.

hes not completely to blame but he isnt the coach we need right now.
 

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dogsarecute

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Aug 7, 2008
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You cannot always claim that it was Nedved or ADP who rescued Ranieri. Ranieri was the one who put his faith with them and they replied with their performance. Did Capello give ADP a chance to show his skills? How about Sissoko who fought the whole game so that we will still have a chance of winning lategame? It could be a one-off incident if the world-class players we have won us one or two games. However, this season, it clearly showed that Ranieri's planning had allowed us to get into second spot even if we played with our reserves for most of the season. You must also remember that Ranieri had never managed a strong squad. He might have done better with Alex Ferguson's resources.
 

dogsarecute

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Aug 7, 2008
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im pretty sure real juve fans dont settle for bullshit losses and draws so im not sure what your talking about.

its like ranieri goes and has 3 good games and then 4 bad ones, like one step forward and two backwards.

hes not completely to blame but he isnt the coach we need right now.
Juve fans who still live in the past cannot stand losses. Juve fans who have faced the reality and know that this is the new era will admonish losses but not condemn the new management just because the team is not in the top spot.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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You just don't "get it". As a collective group, from the board to the manager to the players, we should be doing better but we are not. That's what people like you don't understand and probably never will.

I don't EVER read Goal Dot Com but today I stumbled over an editorial claiming Juventus won't ever win the Scudetto with Grygera, Molinaro and Mellberg at the back. Unfortunately, even with the glut of nonsense that originates from that site, the article title is absolutely spot on. We won't win anything with those freaks at the back.

So to those who want to continue fielding these players, especially Grygera and Molinaro, good for you. Obviously you're happy with mediocrity.
 

David01

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Aug 20, 2006
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Mourinho may be the biggest prick ever in football but when he enters the dressingroom I'm pretty sure people will listen to what he has to say
I'm not so sure if Ranieri has thesame effect on his players.
Ranieri has virtually no background trophy wise and those achievements are what players look up to. I'm sure he is a good coach and the players respect him for that but he is probably not the man with such an aura they would walk trough fire for.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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ranieri does what he is able too, but the fans don't make it easier for him ... our champions do not make it easy too. del piero can not be left out without risking a rift and so ranieri keeps playing him even when he does make many individual errors which would lead to goals, if alex was a defender. nedveds playing time is mostly because it is his last season with us and claudio does not want to spoil his last season by just sitting on the bench.
When will you understand that such claims aren't going to help you to prove your points? If Ranieri has no guts to bench Ale while using another player instead of him would help us to win more points and if he overuses Nedved only because of such a sentimental yet absurd reason you said, then he has to be fired immediately. Have this in mind than the fans are on your side as long as you WIN. If Juve had won without having Del Piero in the team, no one would have criticized Ranieri for benching Ale.

When a coach cares about the fans' reactions more than about the good of team this means that he's incompetent and out of place. Fans' love for Del Piero may cause them not to admit the fact that he's not fit enough to start the matches and you call them "Del Piero fans" instead of "football/Juve fans" but what you'd call a coach who's too gutless to make a decision which fits the whole team rather than the fans' preferences?
 

dogsarecute

Senior Member
Aug 7, 2008
525
You just don't "get it". As a collective group, from the board to the manager to the players, we should be doing better but we are not. That's what people like you don't understand and probably never will.

I don't EVER read Goal Dot Com but today I stumbled over an editorial claiming Juventus won't ever win the Scudetto with Grygera, Molinaro and Mellberg at the back. Unfortunately, even with the glut of nonsense that originates from that site, the article title is absolutely spot on. We won't win anything with those freaks at the back.

So to those who want to continue fielding these players, especially Grygera and Molinaro, good for you. Obviously you're happy with mediocrity.
Of course we know that they are not of the same class as those players we used to have. But the suggestions made is more suited for a team like Real Madrid than Juventus. No Zambrotta now?--Get (um there is no one as good as the old Zambrotta) immediately. No Thuram/Cannavaro?--Get Zapata now. Camo is always injured?--Get me a world-class right winger now.

But consider what will happen then? We will have 1 world-class player but no cover. Then, if Criscito and Camo stay injury-free and play well, will they be contended with the substitutes bench? The young players will not get a chance to play and this goes against the path set out by the management. Lastly, we all notice that our legends are getting old and the management has started planning for this eventuality by getting world-class players at cheap prices instead of paying a premium in the future.
 

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