Claudio Ranieri (36 Viewers)

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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No ones knows that whatsoever.But i guess its easier leaning on the 'He wont play them' than on the 'He will play them' for people who'll slam the coach/managment for everything.

And no.We dont have the same amount of creativity as we did when Capello was incharge.We have more creativity that we had during his time.Emerson,Viera,Blasi,Gianni etc couldnt create to save their lives.Right now we have Giovinco who can create.The same goes for Marchisio.Tiago could fall in the equation,but he's most probably on his way out.

Arent you the one who was always crying out for youngsters to be given a chance at Juventus?Now that we have brought back youngsters like Marchisio,De Ceglie and Giovinco..you still arent content.And yes,they will be used in the team,especially De Ceglie and Giovinco.Ranieri isnt idiotic enough to make them rot on the bench.If he didnt want to use them,they would have been loaned out.
 

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Vieira and Emerson were more "creative" than Sissoko and Zanetti.

We don't even know if Giovinco will start. Wouldn't surprise me if Nedved was started by Ranieri, and that's probably what will happen.

I want the youngsters to play especially Giovinco, but fact is we have sucked in the transfer market and that is my gripe with the people in charge.
 

Gill_juve

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May 29, 2006
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Vieira and Emerson were more "creative" than Sissoko and Zanetti.

We don't even know if Giovinco will start. Wouldn't surprise me if Nedved was started by Ranieri, and that's probably what will happen.

I want the youngsters to play especially Giovinco, but fact is we have sucked in the transfer market and that is my gripe with the people in charge.
sad but very true. i hope they will play if the dont Ranieri should be fired.
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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And the board and Ranieri get shit because Liverpool were not settling for a decent price for Alonso?

Interesting.Personal terms with Xabi had been agreed.You cant blame the managment or the coach if the other team in the deal isnt settling for a price.Every team has a transfer barrier that they wont cross.The same applies to Juventus.Just because we need a player dont not mean that we will break the bank for him.And everyone here who's crying out for creativty,you all seem to forget Giovinco pretty soon,no?Even though Giovinco will not play in Alonso's deep playmaking role,he is still a creative player,and someone who unlock opposing defences.Just because he's someone who can play behind behind the strikers does not mean that he cant be played slightly deeper into a more central role,to fit in Ranieri's 4-4-2.He's still a young player,and changing the position of a player has worked very well for some players in the past.And im not talking about a drastic position change.Giovinco can dribble,he can pass,he can create.He might not have the physical presence to outmuscle opposing Midfield thugs,but he does have the skill to do well in a central-ish midfield position from where he can make forward runs and provide the strikers with ammunition.

Sure,Alonso would have given us a lot,but we do NOT lack Creativty with Giovinco in the team.
they play different positions....and dont be surprised if Gio is put out on the left, where his creativity will be reduced, rather than playing him as a trequartista

i think you're exagerating. There are people in charge who know what they're doing, only because they did not sign alonso does not mean that they know nothing about football. Tell me who looks dumb right now, we or liverpool? It's actually pool who thought they could fool us, and i'm kind of glad we dind't fall for it, even though i like alonso... Now they can remain for another season benching him and dreaming barry (or if they buy him, forget their Silva's and what-not.), Maybe they'll knock on our door in the winter-transfer period who knows...




i agree! Have any of you people thought that if alonso would have played, we could not have played gio/neddy & camo? Except for a midfield of 5 maybe, but with 4 midfielders including alonso, sissoko as ONLY defensive MF is NOT enough. Alonso's defensive skills are limited, and sissoko is good and all, but he can't cover the full length in front of the defense-row all by himself. Camo and Neddy don't defend at all (at least last season) so that leaves us with defending centre-midfielders and believe me, it's better we have 2 classical DMs than to rely on one single Sissoko and a Zanetti who might as well injure himself by climbing out of the bus.

We have all criticized our board, and ranieri but in the end, i think we should wait before calling names. I can't understand comments like vinman... only because we didn't get pool's bench-player? come on...
Let's wait and see. I have the impression that we'll do good, because we have a lot of alternatives this year. Giovinco is the big question mark, because we all know he has the skill, but we don't know yet where ranieri is going to play him. Marchisio is also a very skilled player and might be the next surprise.
In the end, i think it's easier to play with destroying players, because with technical CMs, you could as well make the wrong signings (look at tiago, and i repeat myself; i don't know if alonso is that much better than tiago). At the very least, we'll have a strong defense next year, you can't argue about that. With Sissoko AND poulsen in front of our row, our opponents will have to work A LOT to get through...

we havent gotten anyone else, either, and spent way too much on amauri

we needed a creative middie, and got Poulsen instead....a real masterstroke from the clowns in charge

We don't lack creativity? :howler: Jesus Christ did you see ANY of our matches last season?

We don't even know if Ranieri will fucking field Giovinco from the start.

But anybody with half a football brain knows this Juventus side has lacked creativity and that Xabi Alonso wouldn't be anything close to a detriment to the team. And FFS, he's not a bench player. Watch some football before talking such utter shit.
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Remember the game against torino, how many chances did we create!! Non for 90 minutes the only chance that trezeguet got he scored the winning goal from. What about empoli's game that ended 0-0 how many chances that we've created in that game?

To say that we don't have a creativity problem is just stupid. Remember when camo was injured, we couldn't create much without him. Our attackers scored alot because they're top class. They've scored from the very few chances that they had. Our only hope for creativity next season will be on our wingers (camo, gio).

People here have high hopes for giovinco (who is nodoubt a great talent) but he's not maradona or zizu. I've watched almost all of empoli's games last season (with the exception of 2-3 games). And he is creative but he won't solve all our creativity problem thats for sure. If camo got injured and gio is suspended what will happen? We'll play that useless long ball game (we just don't have many options when we go forward)......
100% agree
 
Mar 30, 2006
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Vieira and Emerson were more "creative" than Sissoko and Zanetti.

We don't even know if Giovinco will start. Wouldn't surprise me if Nedved was started by Ranieri, and that's probably what will happen.

I want the youngsters to play especially Giovinco, but fact is we have sucked in the transfer market and that is my gripe with the people in charge.
I think maybe Nedved will begin the season as a starter seeing thats how he ended last season and it will be up to Giovinco to earn his place.

Same for Poulsen. The only player I could see going straight into the first 11 is Amauri but with the strikers it will have more to do with rotation.
 

K_Mac

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Apr 15, 2006
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I think maybe Nedved will begin the season as a starter seeing thats how he ended last season and it will be up to Giovinco to earn his place.

Same for Poulsen. The only player I could see going straight into the first 11 is Amauri but with the strikers it will have more to do with rotation.

probably true. mellberg maybe too over leggro
 

Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
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I might not be the brightest, but i can see clearly what is right or wrong.
Im against all warmongers, racist, abusers , everyone who uses double standards etc..

If you check some other treads especially in us section u will see what i mean ...
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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I might not be the brightest, but i can see clearly what is right or wrong.
Im against all warmongers, racist, abusers , everyone who uses double standards etc..

If you check some other treads especially in us section u will see what i mean ...
because seeing a whole nation as racist is not prejudiced, and in coming up with this prejudice there was "no" double standard.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Every other thread I take a gander at, there is always some nonsense about Americans that shouldn't even deserve a reply.

But I'll give a reply to this: shut the fuck up about us already, you degenerate scumbags.
 

Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
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because seeing a whole nation as racist is not prejudiced, and in coming up with this prejudice there was "no" double standard.
Read Vinman post in other sections and u will see..


Every other thread I take a gander at, there is always some nonsense about Americans that shouldn't even deserve a reply.

But I'll give a reply to this: shut the fuck up about us already, you degenerate scumbags.
People who can choose 2 times same president and who is war criminal dont deserve much love from rest of the world.
And yes, Fuck off you too

I wouldn't bother paying any attention to a supporter of George Galloway.
So you dont support piece and you are for military solutions than?

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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People who can choose 2 times same president and who is war criminal dont deserve much love from rest of the world.
And yes, Fuck off you too
I didn't choose him, you fucking moron.

And what the fuck do you do for a living? I could call you a murderous, pathetic, war-loving fiend just as easily because you're from the Balkans, but I won't do that because I actually don't stereotype people.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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I might not be the brightest, but i can see clearly what is right or wrong.
Im against all warmongers, racist, abusers , everyone who uses double standards etc..

If you check some other treads especially in us section u will see what i mean ...
obviously you cannot see what is right and what is wrong since you stereotype all americans. in addition to that you are holding prejudice against a nation of millions for the deeds of one figurehead and his cabinet. stop being ignorant unless you are being paid to be so
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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I wouldn't bother paying any attention to a supporter of George Galloway.
i wouldn't either normally but apparently any american on these forums says anything about any other country/nationality then it is a horrible offense. yet when people insult and berate america and americans around here it is "ok" in a certain sense. that is a double standard which i don't abide by.

you know what i mean?
 

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