Claudio Marchisio (65 Viewers)

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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No need to exaggerate, Marchisio may not pushing us forward as Pirlo and vidal do, but he is not holding us back either.
He serves and creates no issues, he has adapted in a large numbers or roles and tactics.
He can be usefull, even as a squad player, even if he would lose his starting place, lets say to Pogba, we would still need one CM of the same caliber to rotate with them, as 3 players for 3 positions in a team that competes in three competitions is def not enough.

So we have ne reason to sell him really, not to seek a replacement. The talk has started from his renewan talks, when he demanded to be considered a starter (above Pogba) and prolly get a better salary.
And now on the NT department, which is full of anti-Juvnetini that thrive on every talk that would destabilize us.
In both camps, the pressure applies mostly on the very high expectations everyone has on Marchisio mostly and not much upon poor performances.
Yes Marchisio is not smth extraordinary, but it is not easy to find anyone consistently better than him either.

There is an abundance of talent in CMs in Italy, apart from De Rossi and Pirlo there are a lot of players pressing for place.
Not neccesarily better than Marchisio, but maybe in a better form.

Marhisio has not reached the status to be untouchable and so there is a pressure on him, so that he will keep performing, or benched.
For the NT, it is not a problem to keep on the bench a load of Montolivos, diamantis and aquilani, just in case one of them happens to be in a great form and be bale to perform slightly better, in a match day, than Marchisio.

For Juventus though things are different, we already have a bg ammount of back up CMs and with Pogba laready pressing the starters, there certaintly is no need to extra pressure.
It would only make sense, if were convinced that we can have an option that is better to Marhcisio in permanent basis.
But is this true about Diamanti? I really doubt so...
 

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Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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He can play 5 more years at this level, I don't think you would mind 7 good seasons for 32 yo player. ;)
At what level? That's the point, people exaggerate his importance on the pitch. Asamoah would easily replace him.

Economically wise he's one of the few players we should sell in order to make this squad a lot stronger, considering we have a replacement already at Juve.
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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But don't you at least think it's a little odd how every coach trusted him?

Deschamps, both Empoli coaches, Ranieri, Ferrara, Zaccheroni, Del Neri, Conte, Lippi & Prandelli.

Something just doesn't add up if you ask me.


And if Asamoah can "easily" replace him, then why hasn't he?
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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It does make you wonder why every coach he's ever had considered him a starter. It's extremely odd.
Because every coach has been wrong thus far. Obviously.

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But don't you at least think it's a little odd how every coach trusted him?

Deschamps, both Empoli coaches, Ranieri, Ferrara, Zaccheroni, Del Neri, Conte, Lippi & Prandelli.

Something just doesn't add up if you ask me.


And if Asamoah can "easily" replace him, then why hasn't he?
Why? Because he can't. Pogba in a couple years, sure, without a doubt but even he would be more of a Pirlo replacement IMO. Marchisio always puts in the work that doesn't get noticed :)D). Seriously, he does a great job connecting & blending the midfield with the attack, especially in a 433 :)D).
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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At what level? That's the point, people exaggerate his importance on the pitch. Asamoah would easily replace him.

Economically wise he's one of the few players we should sell in order to make this squad a lot stronger, considering we have a replacement already at Juve.
That's just wow statement. What's wrong with you? :D

Asmoah is good in his normal position just like Marchi is great in his several roles in the middle.

Too many coaches would do anything to have player such as Marchi, someone who can defend-attack and can play almost in any position in the middle.

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Why? Because he can't. Pogba in a couple years, sure, without a doubt but even he would be more of a Pirlo replacement IMO. Marchisio always puts in the work that doesn't get noticed :)D). Seriously, he does a great job connecting & blending the midfield with the attack, especially in a 433 :)D).
Pogba is indeed Pirlo's replacement and not Marchi. He has what it takes to take Pirlo's place next year.
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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Because every coach has been wrong thus far. Obviously.

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Why? Because he can't. Pogba in a couple years, sure, without a doubt but even he would be more of a Pirlo replacement IMO. Marchisio always puts in the work that doesn't get noticed :)D). Seriously, he does a great job connecting & blending the midfield with the attack, especially in a 433 :)D).
A couple of years? lol

That's just wow statement. What's wrong with you? :D

Asmoah is good in his normal position just like Marchi is great in his several roles in the middle.

Too many coaches would do anything to have someone as him, someone who can defend-attack and can play almost in any position in the middle.
Several roles? He can't play on Pirlo's place. He was on the left side as a winger and he's bad behind a striker. He's also pretty bad in 2 man midfield.

I wouldn't describe such as several roles in the middle. It's only one, and even that one is far from spectacular.

And Asamoah is a beast. :stuckup:
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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That's just wow statement. What's wrong with you? :D

Asmoah is good in his normal position just like Marchi is great in his several roles in the middle.

Too many coaches would do anything to have player such as Marchi, someone who can defend-attack and can play almost in any position in the middle.

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Pogba is indeed Pirlo's replacement and not Marchi. He has what it takes to take Pirlo's place next year.
Key word above^

Several. Asa is a pure DM playing out of position (and doing it well), but you can literaly slut...slot* Marchisio anywhere in the midfield and expect a standard performance.

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A couple of years? lol
Yes, providing Pirlo stays, he has another 1 to 2 seasons playing with us. So yes Doozy, a couple of years.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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So, Susan really is going around in circles now, isn't she? :D

"Marchisio has always started because there were no other available options" followed by "Asamoah can easily replace him", which he didn't.

Confusing stuff!
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Furino

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Dec 31, 2012
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Cerci was crap on Sunday but he's still probably better in the AM role than Marchisio.
Well, AM role. Marchisio should play in the 'normal' midfielder role. I rate Prandelli very good but he combines too much with the system, just like before of Euro when he realize that his system don't work very well.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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We'll see Prandelli's decision tonight. Regardless of someones personal feelings he shouldn't start against Japan after his last abysmal performance.
 

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