[CL] Real Madrid - Juventus (19 Viewers)

Apr 26, 2004
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Real Madrid win the first leg match of Champions’ League last 16 tie, beating the Bianconeri thanks to Helguera’s goal on 31’ minutes into the first half.

In a sold-out Bernabeu, Real Madrid and Juventus stage a show worth the expectations. An exciting but also nervous match, with 8 yellow cards. It is emotional from the very first minutes. It’s Capello’s squad who attacks first with the Del Piero-Emerson partnership, but El Puma’s shot on 5’ minutes is over the bar. The same is for Ronaldo’s finish served by Roberto Carlos (9’). Luxemburgo replaces injured Salgado with Raul Bravo. The first time Buffon is called into action is on 10’ minutes when Ronaldo is pushed to goal by Figo’s assist. After 27 minutes, Casillas neutralizes Nedved’s drive on Ibrahimovic’s assist, after the Czech had kicked his powerful shot over the bar. Good action by Zidane when, after 24’ minutes, he serves Roberto Carlos, crosses to Raul and the latter’s kick hits the crossbar and gets out. It’s Merengues’ captain again in attack but Buffon saves. After 29 minutes Emerson’s fine finish is deflected into corner by Casillas. The advantage goal for Real Madrid comes on 31’ minutes: a free kick for Beckham from the left flank, Helguera rises, nodding the ball in (1-0). 5 minutes later and Nedved is out for injury, substituted by Olivera.


Real Madrid start the second half in attack. After only 3 minutes, Buffon is called into action on Roberto Carlos’s cross from the left flank, he punches the ball away, Figo intercepts it but his attempt cannot find the target. Buffon is essential again on 11’ minutes when he saves Ronaldo’s finish and on 12’ minutes when he clears Zidane’s shot, then Raul grabs the ball but shoots it over the line. Capello’s side gets dangerous on 17’ minutes when Olivera fires a powerful shot then saved by Casillas.

It’s Juventus again on 29’ minutes: Camoranesi shoots in the midfield for Emerson’s head and Merengues’ goalkeeper intercepts the ball. After 32 minutes, Figo shoots on goal but Buffon deflects it into corner. After the corner shot, Samuel’s header hit the post. After replacing Blasi with Tacchinardi, Capello substitutes Del Piero with Zalayeta. On 36’ minutes, Ibrahimovic’s attempt on goal is cleared by Casillas. The second leg match is due in fifteen days at the Delle Alpi, and it will be time to catch up.


REAL MADRID - JUVENTUS 1-0

GOALS: 31'fh Helguera

REAL MADRID: Casillas, Salgado (9'fh Raul Bravo), Helguera, Samuel, Roberto Carlos, Beckham, Gravesen, Zidane, Figo, Raul, Ronaldo (31'sh Owen).
Manager: Luxemburgo.
Substitutes: Cesar, Owen, Guti, Raul Bravo, Portillo, Solari, Pavon.

JUVENTUS: Buffon, Zebina, Thuram, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Camoranesi, Blasi (24'sh Tacchinardi), Emerson, Nedved (36'fh Olivera), Del Piero (36'sh Zalayeta), Ibrahimovic.
Manager: Capello.
Substitutes: Chimenti, Ferrara, Tacchinardi, Pessotto, Birindelli, Olivera, Zalayeta.

REFEREE: Lubos Michel

YELLOW CARDS: 22'fh Thuram, 30'fh Roberto Carlos, 16'sh Olivera, 16'sh Gravesen, 20'sh Blasi, 29'sh Samuel, 34'sh Del Piero, 35'sh Tacchinardi
 

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This was Fabio Capello’s comment on the match against Real: “The result is not that bad, even if it’s a defeat. We played well sometimes, and it’s a pity that when we conceded Helguera’s goal and when Samuel hit the post it was both on inactive balls. I think that opponents’ should be prevented from jumping on place kicks.”

Concerning Nedved’s injury, Capello told what happened: “Nobody realized that Pavel had fainted on the ground. Luckily, he’s better now. The substitution was unexpected and Olivera was not ready yet but he did well in the second half”

A comment on the other side, too: “Real was very solid and motivated, that’s why I’m happy about what my side did, it’s not easy to play at the Bernabeu”. And about his own side: “Until Nedved was on the field we were quite dangerous, anything could happen, while after the substitution it took us a while to recover. The finest occasion we missed was that with Del Piero alone in the area.”
 

Mark

The Informer
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Dec 19, 2003
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I'm sick of the way we play lately. We don't even run with the damn ball. To create chances you need to go forward and dribble trough the opponents defense. Once in a while you'll get some free kicks. We stay there like vegetables and pass back the ball. Sometimes we have 10 yards clear to run but pass to the D. What the fuc*? Madris suck when they get pressured and you all know what we did. We watched them play.

One thing I saw lately is that we suck on dead ball situations. We get scored constantly on corners and free kicks. Even in attack we don't have a guy to score apart of Trez(when he's there). We need guys from the MID and D to score a goal once in a while. The best one we had now is with Siena. Great job Moggi. :thumb:

Juve have no balls. You gotta suffer to win and I didn't see that today. WAKE UP DAMMIT!!!
 

paulo

Senior Member
Aug 14, 2002
640
++ [ originally posted by ZAF3000 ] ++
How about:

Formation: 3-5-2
------------------------Buffon--------------------------
-----Thuram------Cannavaro-----Montero--------
------------Emerson-------Tacchinardi (man to man with zizo)
Camoranesi--------Nedved-----------Zambrotta-
-------Trezeguet------------Del Piero--------------

OR
Formation:3-4-3
----------------------Buffon---------------------------
-----Thuram------Cannavaro-----Montero--------
------------Emerson-------Tacchinardi (man to man with zizo)
Camranesi--------------------------------Nedved--
-------------------Del Piero---------------------------
--------Trezeguet-------------Ibrahimovic---------
Those formations look great, seeing as we have to attack more in the second leg. I wouldn't count on Montero though, he'll never be effective against Raul and Ronaldo... replace him with Zebina. I especially like the first formation, though Ibrahimovic should start in favor of DP. The only weakness is that we will be exposed on the flanks but then again with 5 midfielders we have to prevent that from happening and win back the ball before it reaches their wingers. With 3 central defenders and 2 defencive midfielders our defence should really be hard to pass, while in attack we'll have 3 great attacking midfielders supporting 2 strikers...Great! We sould try that out in the second leg! Little risky perhaps but it will totally surprise Real. The other formation is basically the same but I would never play DP in that role. Dunno about Tacchi "man to man with Zizo" but I hope Capello will work something out.
 

paulo

Senior Member
Aug 14, 2002
640
++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
This is how I would play the next match:



----------Zlatan Trezeguet-----------

--------------Camoranesi---------------

Kapo Nedved Emerson Zambrotta

----Ferrara Cannavaro Thuram------

-----------------Buffon------------------



Pretty attacking, but IMO we have nothing to lose.
Are you kidding?! Camoranesi as playmaker? And Ferrara?:frown: It almost seems as if you want Juve to get knocked out of CL...
 

Gino Genesio

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2004
4,329
hey guys !

i wasent here when the match was on Tv because i concentrade me with a 100% if i see Juve on Tv so No Juventuz.com for me when juve plays.

the game,the result,

1-0 in madrid i dont know if its good ore bad!?
if juve wins with 2goals different than its good if not than its bad.
the game : most of you say that we were crap and we were sh it (like you guys always do :( )
but we did not play crap!
with a lithle luck we would have draw the game and even won it.
because the free kick from beckham on helgera's head , wasent a freekick! zidane just feld on the ground and zebina dident touch him a bid!
so that free kick was never been kicked if the ref wasent blind!
and yes the reff was blind indeed!
ronaldo looks silly when he says taht the ref helps Juventus because today Real gets like 7freekicks for nothing!
and juve gets no freekick when they were fouled.
like when Delpiero give a cool backheel pass to emerson , then emerson go past i think helgera? i dont know but he went past a real defender and the defender tackel emerson in the box ore just not in the box but that was a very good possition emerson was and if he gets a shot maybe he would scored.
zlatan also gets a huggeeee chance! and if trezeguet was in bernabeau today and zambrotta's PERFECT cross landed on Trezeguet's head and not emersons head than that would be a Goal for sure!
real played good and zidane was class, ore defends was great we only conceded a goal on a freekick that never may kicked if the reff wasent blind.
all in 1 we played in bernabeau againts real madrid in the knock out round of the champions leageu what did you ecpext???
no team today in this world would hade a better result againts real madrid!

and what is this s h i t about we lost also 1-0 againts depor last year and than we lost 0-1 at home , taht it all gowing to repeat again!
that's sh it!

againts depor we played like with 8reserve players we played in a empty delle alpi and 1of our 3 basic players fell of in the first 10min, the game looked bad before it begins , but this game is deferent this year is deferent.
we will play with a full team(the most of them,and if we dont get injury problems)
and Believe me we will paly in a FULL DELLE ALPI!
and believe me!!!! al ritorno al Delle Alpi il 9 marzo che a Torino sia un'altra Juve. (the return in Delle alpi 9march in turin there will be a totally deferent juve !

this weekend we play siena ! AND WE WILL WIN!
this weekend is inter vs milan and INTER WILL WIN ORE ELS A DRAW!
we will be back at the top and Juve will get more confident if we than put a good performance in Roma than we will have more confidence!
and than like i always do i believe Juventus can win and knock out Real madrid From This champions leageu 2004/2005!!!!

we did this more than once that we make a first legg defeat good in a better 2legg win!

CIAO TUTTI BUONA NOTTE AND FORZA JUVENTUS!!!!

See ya 9 MARZO AL TORINO DELLE ALPI 70.000 TIFO JUVENTINI!

FORZA BIANCONERA FORZA JUVENTUS!!!!
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
If we do not attack, we will not score. We cannot sit back because Real will control the match and have the ball up our asses for the whole match, just like today. What happened today? We lost 1-0 because we sat back against Real and let them control the match. How can you think that if we use this same mentality we will progress? That is just idiotic. We must attack Real and force them to defend like we did in 2003. DO NOT SIT BACK.
What I don't understand is that you know it, I know it, the players have to know it, so why the fvck doesn't Capello know it? He's the man that's getting paid to coach the team, he's supposedly one of the best managers in the world, so why does he make simple errors like this? Real have the necessary quality in attack to pick teams apart and we make that easier for them by sitting back and trying to soak up the pressure. Players like Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo will find a way through, that's friggin obvious! When we tried to take the game to Real in the first 15 minutes or so we matched them and actually looked dangerous, but it was impossible for Del Piero or Ibrahimovic to make much of an impact after that because there was no supply to the front two whatsoever. I'm not optimistic, not at all.
 
Jan 7, 2004
29,704
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


What I don't understand is that you know it, I know it, the players have to know it, so why the fvck doesn't Capello know it? He's the man that's getting paid to coach the team, he's supposedly one of the best managers in the world, so why does he make simple errors like this? Real have the necessary quality in attack to pick teams apart and we make that easier for them by sitting back and trying to soak up the pressure. Players like Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo will find a way through, that's friggin obvious! When we tried to take the game to Real in the first 15 minutes or so we matched them and actually looked dangerous, but it was impossible for Del Piero or Ibrahimovic to make much of an impact after that because there was no supply to the front two whatsoever. I'm not optimistic, not at all.


its hard to realize that we rely on neddy so much
 

Stu

Senior Member
Jul 14, 2002
17,557
Buffon - Could do nothing about the goal and saved well from Zidane, Ronaldo and Figo. 6

Zebina - Quite annoying really. He wasn't that bad but needs to stop holding onto players shirts as he could have easily conceded a penalty in the second half when Raul went down. 5.5

Thuram - Well played. His presence reduced the threat that I thought Ronaldo would pose. 6.5

Cannavaro - Not bad. Made a few crucial interventions. 6

Zambrotta - Nice penetrating runs but wasn't allowed to go forward as much as I would've liked because of the constant Real pressure. 6

Camoranesi - Some good, some bad. 5.5

Blasi - Did a lot of running and worked really hard but he commits too many fouls and doesn't offer anything offensively. Foolishly got himself suspended. 5

Emerson - Solid performance, tested Casillas twice. 6

Nedved - No rating.

Del Piero - Started brightly by breezing past Salgado, excellent backheel to Emerson too. I thought he had a decent first half but when Nedved was replaced the midfield failed to supply anything to him or Zlatan and Real took over. Horrible second half. 5.5

Ibrahimovic - Poor. Set up Nedved nicely in the first half but didn't do anything else. The service to him wasn't good though, but he has to realise that he can't take on two and three players every time he gets the ball. 5.5
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,018
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


What I don't understand is that you know it, I know it, the players have to know it, so why the fvck doesn't Capello know it? He's the man that's getting paid to coach the team, he's supposedly one of the best managers in the world, so why does he make simple errors like this? Real have the necessary quality in attack to pick teams apart and we make that easier for them by sitting back and trying to soak up the pressure. Players like Zidane, Figo and Ronaldo will find a way through, that's friggin obvious! When we tried to take the game to Real in the first 15 minutes or so we matched them and actually looked dangerous, but it was impossible for Del Piero or Ibrahimovic to make much of an impact after that because there was no supply to the front two whatsoever. I'm not optimistic, not at all.

Capello knows that we do not have the calibre of players to go out and attack the whole match, so he tends to be conservative all the time. We lack a playermaker to direct the team, so that means nobody really knows how to control the match with posession and take their time with the ball. I want Capello to make the team go out there and attack, but he will probably say that we do not have the players to control the match with offensive prowess, so he rather put a team out that is "sound" defensively.

Since we do not have the players to control the match with our attack, Real wins the battle of attrition and we revert to playing defensive football. One of our players makes a bad pass instead of keeping posession, which makes us revert to defending. Another player has the ball up top and is looking for options, but nobody is there to support so we lose the ball and revert to defending. This is the problem. So instead of taking a chance pushing players forward all the time, Capello rather keep the defense sound, no matter who we play. If I was coach I would give the players more freedom to attack, however that might backfire and we would be left exposed at the back. Capello is just an old-fashioned traditional coach who does not take many risks. Well, I think we will have to take risks in two weeks.
 

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