[CL] JUVENTUS 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur [February 13th 2018] (9 Viewers)

[Cerval]

Gigi
MdS Benatia Chiellini AS
Pjanic Khedira
DC Berna Mandzu
Higgy​

Licht or Barza instead of MDS and it's good

 

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[DAiDEViL]

Gigi
MdS Benatia Chiellini AS
Pjanic Khedira
DC Berna Mandzu
Higgy​

Where Ruru at?

Play 433, bench Berna for Ruru

 

[zizinho]

Where Ruru at?

Play 433, bench Berna for Ruru

it was a typo, i meant to put TrequartiStu in the hole

 

[Lapa]

We all know it will be:

Gigi
DS Bena Chiello Sandro
Sami Pjanic Stu
DC Piggy Mandzu

 

[DAiDEViL]

Licht or Barza instead of MDS and it's good

I think Barza is still a quality CB, but the times of him playing as makeshift RB should be over imo.

 

[zizinho]

Licht or Barza instead of MDS and it's good

isnt Barza injured? and i prefer MdS over Licht

 

[MrMonkey]

No worries, we have the Holy Grail to help us: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...se-Newports-Spurs-scouting-report-CL-tie.html

Yes, read article elsewhere a key to stopping Tott attack was controlling Dembele and Dier from passing forward successfully. Said the key to Juve stopping that, was Khedira's MF defensive prowess. If match ends up 1-0 or 0-0, than even if Sami seemed invisible on the pitch, I say he did his part well!

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Licht or Barza instead of MDS and it's good

fuck that licht is a liability.

 

[Wittl]

fuck that licht is a liability.

Not as much as you are.

 

[zizinho]

 

[piotrr]

Like the ones with the bicycle @piotrr

Yeah

Never thought of using Cornella's works tho

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Not as much as you are.

I wish i could be as funny as you

 

[Monty]

Dier is their weak link - i'd like to see costa deployed centrally like when he came on against fiorentina

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please enlighten me what stats should we be looking at for a midfielder?

Marchisio has played a fraction of the minutes khedira has this season and is supposedly not even 100% unlike khedira's fitness, even so that was not the argument.

People actually think khedira is our 2nd best midfielder in the team when he is not even remotely close to what Pjanic and Matuidi are to the team.

Lets stick to your original example otherwise this could get hairy:

You bashed him cuz he completed 16 passes and 0 tackles

1) How many passes does he usually complete, how many on a good day/bad day. Same with tackles

2) What were those numbers for the other mezzala that was playing?

3) Is he even on the pitch for his passing/tackling? Or is he there for his closing down passing channels, vertical runs to provide more bodies in offence/defence and his timing of going up/tracking back, his pressing of the opposition, aerial balls etc.

As far as I know there are no stats for 3), maybe could look at heatmaps

Finally: Yes he is an important midfielder for us as him, pjanic and matuidi fulfill different roles and are the best 3 at it for those respective roles e.g. 3 pjanics on the field would be imbalanced

 

[DAiDEViL]

Dier is their weak link - i'd like to see costa deployed centrally like when he came on against fiorentina

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Lets stick to your original example otherwise this could get hairy:

You bashed him cuz he completed 16 passes and 0 tackles

1) How many passes does he usually complete, how many on a good day/bad day. Same with tackles

2) What were those numbers for the other mezzala that was playing?

3) Is he even on the pitch for his passing/tackling? Or is he there for his closing down passing channels, vertical runs to provide more bodies in offence/defence and his timing of going up/tracking back, his pressing of the opposition, aerial balls etc.

As far as I know there are no stats for 3), maybe could look at heatmaps

Finally: Yes he is an important midfielder for us as him, pjanic and matuidi fulfill different roles and are the best 3 at it for those respective roles e.g. 3 pjanics on the field would be imbalanced

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Finally: Yes he is an important midfielder for us as him, pjanic and matuidi fulfill different roles and are the best 3 at it for those respective roles e.g. 3 pjanics on the field would be imbalanced

Marchisio can play Khedira's role at a far higher level like in 2014/15 and is a far better regista than Pjanic.

 

[Monty]

Marchisio can play Khedira's role at a far higher level like in 2014/15 and is a far better regista than Pjanic.

Prime Marchisio yes, not current marchisio

 

[Ronn]

Preview on Juventus.com: The 24-year-old England international (Kane) already has 32 goals in all competitions this season (23 in the Premier League, six in the Champions League and three in the Coppa Italia).
:lol4:
http://www.juventus.com/en/news/news/2018/juventus-tottenham-match-preview.php

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Dier is their weak link - i'd like to see costa deployed centrally like when he came on against fiorentina

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Lets stick to your original example otherwise this could get hairy:

You bashed him cuz he completed 16 passes and 0 tackles

1) How many passes does he usually complete, how many on a good day/bad day. Same with tackles

2) What were those numbers for the other mezzala that was playing?

3) Is he even on the pitch for his passing/tackling? Or is he there for his closing down passing channels, vertical runs to provide more bodies in offence/defence and his timing of going up/tracking back, his pressing of the opposition, aerial balls etc.

As far as I know there are no stats for 3), maybe could look at heatmaps

Finally: Yes he is an important midfielder for us as him, pjanic and matuidi fulfill different roles and are the best 3 at it for those respective roles e.g. 3 pjanics on the field would be imbalanced

He is the most immobile of our midfielders Sturaro included. Fuck knows how you think khedira could possibly close down channels. Like I said he does nothing, adds nothing is literally nothing. Against the smaller sides he's somewhat more visible but against better opposition he is utterly useless. No good even looking at best maps he hardly breaks sweat I wouldnt be surprised if he clocks up less km than the other mids

 

[DAiDEViL]

^

Now you know why Badass has been regularly mocked on this forum for the entirety of his time here.

Starting to understand.

 

[Juvellino]

Gigi
MdS Benatia Chiellini AS
Pjanic Khedira
DC Berna Mandzu
Higgy​

I think this will and should be it