You mean Wolfsburg and Zenit, right? Well yeah it makes no sense, but UEFA generally doesn't.
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Sure, let's have it then.
The Muller's goal was regular by refereeing standards of today's game. Lewandowski was offside but he did nothing except standing there. Even in Italy those aren't irregular, see our game vs Roma last season when Bonucci scored in Turin (3-2). I guess you weren't saying it was irregular back then.
On the second goal Bonucci wasn't going with the pace of the attack and it was an accidental clash between him and Lewandowski. In Serie A he would get a foul but not in Europe, especially with an English referee. It's simply not enough to get away with, we got caught on a counter and that's it. If Bonucci stood on his feet with Lewandowski going down, would you give them a free kick? I wouldn't.
Vidal's handball is more often not a penalty than it is. He was close to Pogba and he had no time to react, his hand is in natural position, those really never get called. You're not convinced? Take a look at this:
inter merda fans were discussing it, it's a fresh one from our last game against Bologna. Marchisio extends his body with his arm the way Vidal did and in both cases it wasn't called. Even in Serie A those are rarely called as you can see.
As for the Magath idea I think it's already been criticized and there's nothing more to add. Just because Italians have their problems it doesn't mean you have to change the rules of the game. After all Spanish, German and English leagues are all successful with those rules so maybe those aren't that bad, are they? The whole World won't just adapt to Italians you know.
As for the money sharing I guess your argument goes down the toilet once you take a look at Spain's money distribution. La Liga is the best league in the World right now and they have implemented exactly the opposite to what you propose. Juve being the four time consecutive champion of Italy with the best squad and management in Italy aren't even close financially to the best from other leagues, yet you want to take away money from them, yeah that will only make them even more competitive in Europe
Sorry to say that but without the money you're not able to be a consistent top dog in Europe and that's what Italians need right now, don't they?
The Muller's goal was regular by refereeing standards of today's game. Lewandowski was offside but he did nothing except standing there. Even in Italy those aren't irregular, see our game vs Roma last season when Bonucci scored in Turin (3-2). I guess you weren't saying it was irregular back then.
On the second goal Bonucci wasn't going with the pace of the attack and it was an accidental clash between him and Lewandowski. In Serie A he would get a foul but not in Europe, especially with an English referee. It's simply not enough to get away with, we got caught on a counter and that's it. If Bonucci stood on his feet with Lewandowski going down, would you give them a free kick? I wouldn't.
Vidal's handball is more often not a penalty than it is. He was close to Pogba and he had no time to react, his hand is in natural position, those really never get called. You're not convinced? Take a look at this:
inter merda fans were discussing it, it's a fresh one from our last game against Bologna. Marchisio extends his body with his arm the way Vidal did and in both cases it wasn't called. Even in Serie A those are rarely called as you can see.
As for the Magath idea I think it's already been criticized and there's nothing more to add. Just because Italians have their problems it doesn't mean you have to change the rules of the game. After all Spanish, German and English leagues are all successful with those rules so maybe those aren't that bad, are they? The whole World won't just adapt to Italians you know.
As for the money sharing I guess your argument goes down the toilet once you take a look at Spain's money distribution. La Liga is the best league in the World right now and they have implemented exactly the opposite to what you propose. Juve being the four time consecutive champion of Italy with the best squad and management in Italy aren't even close financially to the best from other leagues, yet you want to take away money from them, yeah that will only make them even more competitive in Europe
Sorry to say that but without the money you're not able to be a consistent top dog in Europe and that's what Italians need right now, don't they?
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/
We could probably be top 5-6 next season considering our 11/12 co-efficient will be wiped off.
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Still value these rankings tbh.Shows how far the club has come after all the disastrous yrs post calciopoli
We could probably be top 5-6 next season considering our 11/12 co-efficient will be wiped off.
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Still value these rankings tbh.Shows how far the club has come after all the disastrous yrs post calciopoli
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_11_offside_en_47383.pdf
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Many referees making the same mistakes, does not make it right.
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Many referees making the same mistakes, does not make it right.
It sucks that the UEFA coefficient is becoming irrelevant going forward for #1 seeding just when we are about to become firmly established in the top 8. Now if some team like Inter without any midweek games invests heavily and manages to luck their way into a league win, they get a 1 seed 
Should be that you have to be top 16 in the coefficient for winning the league to make you Pot 1
Should be that you have to be top 16 in the coefficient for winning the league to make you Pot 1
It sucks that the UEFA coefficient is becoming irrelevant going forward for #1 seeding just when we are about to become firmly established in the top 8. Now if some team like Inter without any midweek games invests heavily and manages to luck their way into a league win, they get a 1 seed
Should be that you have to be top 16 in the coefficient for winning the league to make you Pot 1
Should be that you have to be top 16 in the coefficient for winning the league to make you Pot 1
Chelsea also likely wont be in Europe next season.So top 6 next season would probably look like in no order : Barca,Madrid,Bayern,PSG,Juve,Atleti.Seems about legit.These are the top 6 teams in Europe right now.
Sure, let's have it then.
The Muller's goal was regular by refereeing standards of today's game. Lewandowski was offside but he did nothing except standing there. Even in Italy those aren't irregular, see our game vs Roma last season when Bonucci scored in Turin (3-2). I guess you weren't saying it was irregular back then.
On the second goal Bonucci wasn't going with the pace of the attack and it was an accidental clash between him and Lewandowski. In Serie A he would get a foul but not in Europe, especially with an English referee. It's simply not enough to get away with, we got caught on a counter and that's it. If Bonucci stood on his feet with Lewandowski going down, would you give them a free kick? I wouldn't.
Vidal's handball is more often not a penalty than it is. He was close to Pogba and he had no time to react, his hand is in natural position, those really never get called. You're not convinced? Take a look at this:
inter merda fans were discussing it, it's a fresh one from our last game against Bologna. Marchisio extends his body with his arm the way Vidal did and in both cases it wasn't called. Even in Serie A those are rarely called as you can see.
As for the Magath idea I think it's already been criticized and there's nothing more to add. Just because Italians have their problems it doesn't mean you have to change the rules of the game. After all Spanish, German and English leagues are all successful with those rules so maybe those aren't that bad, are they? The whole World won't just adapt to Italians you know.
As for the money sharing I guess your argument goes down the toilet once you take a look at Spain's money distribution. La Liga is the best league in the World right now and they have implemented exactly the opposite to what you propose. Juve being the four time consecutive champion of Italy with the best squad and management in Italy aren't even close financially to the best from other leagues, yet you want to take away money from them, yeah that will only make them even more competitive in Europe Sorry to say that but without the money you're not able to be a consistent top dog in Europe and that's what Italians need right now, don't they?
The Muller's goal was regular by refereeing standards of today's game. Lewandowski was offside but he did nothing except standing there. Even in Italy those aren't irregular, see our game vs Roma last season when Bonucci scored in Turin (3-2). I guess you weren't saying it was irregular back then.
On the second goal Bonucci wasn't going with the pace of the attack and it was an accidental clash between him and Lewandowski. In Serie A he would get a foul but not in Europe, especially with an English referee. It's simply not enough to get away with, we got caught on a counter and that's it. If Bonucci stood on his feet with Lewandowski going down, would you give them a free kick? I wouldn't.
Vidal's handball is more often not a penalty than it is. He was close to Pogba and he had no time to react, his hand is in natural position, those really never get called. You're not convinced? Take a look at this:
inter merda fans were discussing it, it's a fresh one from our last game against Bologna. Marchisio extends his body with his arm the way Vidal did and in both cases it wasn't called. Even in Serie A those are rarely called as you can see.
As for the Magath idea I think it's already been criticized and there's nothing more to add. Just because Italians have their problems it doesn't mean you have to change the rules of the game. After all Spanish, German and English leagues are all successful with those rules so maybe those aren't that bad, are they? The whole World won't just adapt to Italians you know.
As for the money sharing I guess your argument goes down the toilet once you take a look at Spain's money distribution. La Liga is the best league in the World right now and they have implemented exactly the opposite to what you propose. Juve being the four time consecutive champion of Italy with the best squad and management in Italy aren't even close financially to the best from other leagues, yet you want to take away money from them, yeah that will only make them even more competitive in Europe
Sorry to say that but without the money you're not able to be a consistent top dog in Europe and that's what Italians need right now, don't they?
Quite the difference.
I still think Lewandosky fouled Bonucci and left us in a bad spot.
I wasn't talking in general with the Magat idea just for the italian league.
I guess leagues can still manage them a bit about rules no? so why would it matter for the rest if it's the italian national championship?
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Vidal was way far from the Roma goal keeper not covering his view while Lewandosky was not even a meter away from Buffon and stopped him from seeing clearly the shot.
It's the points teams gained in Europe this season.
Qualifying for CL groups = 4 points
Qualifying for CL knockouts = 5 points
Win a match = 2 points
Draw = 1 point
Juve have 3 wins (Sevilla and City twice) and 3 draws (Bayern once and Gladback twice). That's 9 points. Add the 4 points for qualifying for the CL groups and the 5 points for making the CL knockouts, and that's how Juve got these 18 points.
This is how UEFA grants points for 5-6 years now.
In Europa League the teams don't get bonus pts for making the EL groups and the EL knockouts. They only get 1 pt for every 1/4 final, 1/2 final and EL final qualification.
Qualifying for CL groups = 4 points
Qualifying for CL knockouts = 5 points
Win a match = 2 points
Draw = 1 point
Juve have 3 wins (Sevilla and City twice) and 3 draws (Bayern once and Gladback twice). That's 9 points. Add the 4 points for qualifying for the CL groups and the 5 points for making the CL knockouts, and that's how Juve got these 18 points.
This is how UEFA grants points for 5-6 years now.
In Europa League the teams don't get bonus pts for making the EL groups and the EL knockouts. They only get 1 pt for every 1/4 final, 1/2 final and EL final qualification.
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