[CL] Champions League 2014/15 (12 Viewers)

Who do you want us to face in 1/2?

  • Barcelona

  • Real Madrid

  • Bayern


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Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Yet Madrid was stronger back in 2012. All the good teams from 2/3 seasons ago, are significantly less today. And no new team rose to their hights.
Current madrid is awfully balanced. Get a strong team to tactically limit their build up, and force into duels everywhere, and they'll have severe difficulties

Heynckens Bayern for example, would tear it apart with ease. Mourinho's inter would smash it like the bitch it is.


Juventus has the organisation, tactical dicipline and duelpower to overcome madrid.
1.) Yes, because Ancelotti is just going to sit there and watch that happen for 90 minutes. You might be able to accomplish that in fits and starts, in patches, but it is unsustainable over 90 minutes.

2.) Those teams don't exist anymore, so what is the point of mentioning/referencing them?

3.) You are over-rating us. In 9 out of 10 encounters, we'd lose against Madrid. Heck, we might even play the perfect game and still lose. Madrid do possess flaws, but it isn't as if we are impeccable or indestructible. We have an ageing/slow defense, and our attempts at counter attacking have been pathetic and embarrassing thus far (we shall see how that changes this season, if at all).

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Come on. Taking years of coaching into consideration, Mourinho shits all over Ancelotti statswise.
:lol: :howler: Mourinho is 51. Ancelotti is 55. Ancelotti started managing in 95, and Mourinho commenced with Benfica in 2000.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
:lol: :howler: Mourinho is 51. Ancelotti is 55. Ancelotti started managing in 95, and Mourinho commenced with Benfica in 2000.
You are kidding, right? Ancelotti does have 1 CL title more than Mourinho (who won with fucking Porto and Inter), but Ancelotti has only won 3(!!) league titles. Mourinho has 7 (or 5 if you don't want to count Portuguese titles) in 5 less years.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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People are saying Ancelotti is better than Guardiola so I wouldn't even bother with them. It's just a subconscious way for them to hold on to the fact that Serie A and Italy used to be football powerhouses.

Best coach out there right now imo?

Klopp. Titles aren't the end all be all anyways.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
I am being serious. You also have to look at the teams they both managed. Ancelotti started out with Reggiana and Parma in a highly competitive Serie A. They pushed for the title in the heyday of Serie A, against teams who were much better equipped than them. He only failed @ Juve (by finishing 2'nd twice), and that was only because he had Zidane injured for a period of time, and a Del Piero trying to regain form after that horrific injury.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
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I'm not even trying to argue that Mourinho is better than Ancelotti (though I think he is). I just really, really can't see how you can find Ancelotti's trophies more impressive than Mourinho's.
 

Bayernstar

Heritage of Kahn
Mar 16, 2013
1,174
People are saying Ancelotti is better than Guardiola so I wouldn't even bother with them. It's just a subconscious way for them to hold on to the fact that Serie A and Italy used to be football powerhouses.

Best coach out there right now imo?

Klopp. Titles aren't the end all be all anyways.
This guy is a monster of a coach, coming from a bayern fan, but he deserved that credit, he has great tactical awareness and also passion.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
People are saying Ancelotti is better than Guardiola so I wouldn't even bother with them. It's just a subconscious way for them to hold on to the fact that Serie A and Italy used to be football powerhouses.

Best coach out there right now imo?

Klopp. Titles aren't the end all be all anyways.
That is ur opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Fuck Guardiola and his boring fucked up style of football. He made a mean machine like Bayern look like a bunch of confused pussycats in the CL last season.

Yes, Ancelotti is a better coach than that sack of shit Guardiola, and that is my fucking opinion.
 

Bayernstar

Heritage of Kahn
Mar 16, 2013
1,174
That is ur opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Fuck Guardiola and his boring fucked up style of football. He made a mean machine like Bayern look like a bunch of confused pussycats in the CL last season.

Yes, Ancelotti is a better coach than that sack of shit Guardiola, and that is my fucking opinion.
what do you think of Klopp?
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,177
I'm not even trying to argue that Mourinho is better than Ancelotti (though I think he is). I just really, really can't see how you can find Ancelotti's trophies more impressive than Mourinho's.
I don't rate winning titles in Portugal as anything to shout about, and he guided the scum to their titles at a time when Juventus were recovering and the whole league was going to shit (it still is, mind you).

Ancelotti has 3 CL titles. not one, not two, but THREE! No other coach in the modern era has managed that.

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what do you think of Klopp?
I love Klopp. I rate him very highly, but unfortunately in football (and sports in general) you are judged based on what you win.

I like Montella and Guidolin too, but you can't involve them in the discussion of best coach until they have the titles. The same applies to Simeone.

It's like saying I like Jeff Hornacek and what he has done with the Suns, and then throwing him in the mix with names like Poppovich, Phil Jackson, and Red Auerbach.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
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1.) Yes, because Ancelotti is just going to sit there and watch that happen for 90 minutes. You might be able to accomplish that in fits and starts, in patches, but it is unsustainable over 90 minutes.

2.) Those teams don't exist anymore, so what is the point of mentioning/referencing them?

3.) You are over-rating us. In 9 out of 10 encounters, we'd lose against Madrid. Heck, we might even play the perfect game and still lose. Madrid do possess flaws, but it isn't as if we are impeccable or indestructible. We have an ageing/slow defense, and our attempts at counter attacking have been pathetic and embarrassing thus far (we shall see how that changes this season, if at all).

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:lol: :howler: Mourinho is 51. Ancelotti is 55. Ancelotti started managing in 95, and Mourinho commenced with Benfica in 2000.
1)It offcourse is .

Juventus did it for 3 seasons in a row in 1995-1998. Mourinho's inter did it for two games against the strongest barcelona in 2012, Heynckens bayern did it in 2013.
Allegri did it with a shit milan against Barcelona in 2013 etc.

Any team that is not well balanced, runs the risk of beeing tactically limited and drawn into duels. If you dont have the Martinez-schweinsteiger midfield to back your flair and fancy up, you'll face significant issues. Madrid has very poor recovery players. Very few workrate players. They will suffer when aggressively pressed by tactically diciplined teams.
Thank fuck for them, there are none at the moment, apart from perhaps juventus and chelsea.

2) I'm referring to those teams to give an idea how how much stronger teams there were a few years ago, and how poor this seasons teams are if madrid is supposedly the best of the bunch

3) you are talking about last season when we made blunders and had shit mentality in the CL before we realise it was the 4th game allready. However this team has shown its skill before. And we now got allegri who's a master at setting a deep defence with proper aggression. And we added players who can counterattack.


Ancelotte is awesome, i love him. Mourinho is better. Not even close.
 

Bayernstar

Heritage of Kahn
Mar 16, 2013
1,174
I love Klopp. I rate him very highly, but unfortunately in football (and sports in general) you are judged based on what you win.

I like Montella and Guidolin too, but you can't involve them in the discussion of best coach until they have the titles. The same applies to Simeone.

It's like saying I like Jeff Hornacek and what he has done with the Suns, and then throwing him in the mix with names like Poppovich, Phil Jackson, and Red Auerbach.
Thats true but he has a great attitude and also hard passion for football, he's still young who knows, maybe in future he will win some major trophy
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
1)It offcourse is .

Juventus did it for 3 seasons in a row in 1995-1998. Mourinho's inter did it for two games against the strongest barcelona in 2012, Heynckens bayern did it in 2013.
Allegri did it with a shit milan against Barcelona in 2013 etc.

Any team that is not well balanced, runs the risk of beeing tactically limited and drawn into duels. If you dont have the Martinez-schweinsteiger midfield to back your flair and fancy up, you'll face significant issues. Madrid has very poor recovery players. Very few workrate players. They will suffer when aggressively pressed by tactically diciplined teams.
Thank fuck for them, there are none at the moment, apart from perhaps juventus and chelsea.

2) I'm referring to those teams to give an idea how how much stronger teams there were a few years ago, and how poor this seasons teams are if madrid is supposedly the best of the bunch

3) you are talking about last season when we made blunders and had shit mentality in the CL before we realise it was the 4th game allready. However this team has shown its skill before. And we now got allegri who's a master at setting a deep defence with proper aggression. And we added players who can counterattack.


Ancelotte is awesome, i love him. Mourinho is better. Not even close.
Again, that is your opinion, and not a fact.

You raise some very good and valid points, but I am cautiously optimistic about our chances, while you are clearly overstating our potential. I shall wait and see what happens as the season progresses, but as things are, if we were to play Madrid, we'd lose 9 times out of 10. Ok, maybe 8 :p

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Thats true but he has a great attitude and also hard passion for football, he's still young who knows, maybe in future he will win some major trophy
I would like to see him coach us. Unfortunately, we usually hire Italian coaches, and Klopp coming here is unlikely to happen anytime soon.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Not much luck on the tranny dating sites?
I leave the tranny business to the weirdos like you and Voller :heart: I know you guys are keen to sample the forbidden fruit that Nick has savored :p

As for dating sites, I find the amount of insecure women and psychos rather amusing. I need money to pay for my room, my ex bf raped me, my mom is sick, etc... Too many sob stories, and most of them are totally bogus.
 

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
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You guys need to get laid. [still] Discussing who's the best coach. :serjo:
you make it sound as if that's the only pointless discussion around :D

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I leave the tranny business to the weirdos like you and Voller :heart: I know you guys are keen to sample the forbidden fruit that Nick has savored :p

As for dating sites, I find the amount of insecure women and psychos rather amusing. I need money to pay for my room, my ex bf raped me, my mom is sick, etc... Too many sob stories, and most of them are totally bogus.
oh, the irony :D
 

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