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[ALC]

Difference being, he has a much bigger impact for Roma than he did for Arsenal and if you can't see that, you're blind.

 

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[Ocelot]

Difference being, he has a much bigger impact for Roma than he did for Arsenal and if you can't see that, you're blind.

He had for the first few months.

Now not so much. Roma just don't really have any alternative.

If he's available for 40m, I'd do it, definitely worth that much.

He's not, by far not.

 

[Post Ironic]

Difference being, he has a much bigger impact for Roma than he did for Arsenal and if you can't see that, you're blind.

What? This isn't true in the slightest. His goals per minute was much better for Arsenal. And his assists per minute are better for Roma.

9 goals - 8 assists for Arsenal in 2701 minutes in Premier League = 1 goal / 300 minutes 1 assist / 337 minutes 1 goal or assist / 158 minutes

11 goals - 16 assists for Roma in 4320 minutes in Serie A = 1 goal / 393 minutes 1 assist / 270 minutes 1 goal or assist / 160 minutes

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Why does everyone say look at Gervinho and how he is tearing up Serie A? Look at his stats in england they are almost exactly the same as they are in Italy. I don't see how anyone can rate him.

This.

It's all people who like to point at cases like Gervinho as proof that Premier League is way better than Serie A. It's an obvious fallacy, and doesn't at all correlate to reality. Gervinho is actually slightly worse in Serie A in terms of goals+assists to minutes played.

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. Created a lot of chances, but had absolutely no end product.

 

[Ocelot]

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. Created a lot of chances, but had absolutely no end product.

Yep, the only difference is that he got his ass benched at Arsenal, while Roma keep starting him due to a lack of better alternatives.

 

[Post Ironic]

Yep, the only difference is that he got his ass benched at Arsenal, while Roma keep starting him due to a lack of better alternatives.

Roma really doesn't have anyone better, even more so when one considers that Garcia refuses to play anything but a 4-3-3. Perhaps Ibarbo will bench him for the remainder of the season, but I wouldn't bet on that, as Garcia actually seems to love Gervinho from his time at Lille.

The other thing was Arsenal was somewhat stupid in buying him the year they did. It was the year before Africa Cup of Nations switched to odd years, so both his first two years at Arsenal he missed about a month for that, and came back in pretty rough shape each season. He finished the first season very poorly after a strong start, likely due to Cup of Nations, and in the second season Arsenal basically benched him after cup of nations.

 

[pitbull]

It's all people who like to point at cases like Gervinho as proof that Premier League is way better than Serie A. It's an obvious fallacy, and doesn't at all correlate to reality. Gervinho is actually slightly worse in Serie A in terms of goals+assists to minutes played.

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. Created a lot of chances, but had absolutely no end product.

AS Roma league form up until AFCON
12 wins, 3 draws, 2 losses

since the start of AFCON
2 wins, 8 draws, 1 loss

I think it's safe to assume that loss of Gervinho for nearly two months played a factor in their crisis

 

[Post Ironic]

AS Roma league form up until AFCON
12 wins, 3 draws, 2 losses

since the start of AFCON
1 win, 8 draws, 1 loss

I think it's safe to assume that loss of Gervinho for nearly two months played a factor in their crisis

That really is irrelevant. They lost Gervinho for 4.5 weeks. Not two months. He came back in poor fitness. I could say it was Keita instead who was the problem. Or the sale of Destro. Lot's of things are wrong for Roma.

Arsenal went 4 wins-4 losses-2 draws in the matches Gervinho missed over the two AFCONs. That's significantly worse than what they did the rest of each of those two years also.

 

[alexjuventino]

What? This isn't true in the slightest. His goals per minute was much better for Arsenal. And his assists per minute are better for Roma.

9 goals - 8 assists for Arsenal in 2701 minutes in Premier League = 1 goal / 300 minutes 1 assist / 337 minutes 1 goal or assist / 158 minutes

11 goals - 16 assists for Roma in 4320 minutes in Serie A = 1 goal / 393 minutes 1 assist / 270 minutes 1 goal or assist / 160 minutes

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This.

It's all people who like to point at cases like Gervinho as proof that Premier League is way better than Serie A. It's an obvious fallacy, and doesn't at all correlate to reality. Gervinho is actually slightly worse in Serie A in terms of goals+assists to minutes played.

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. Created a lot of chances, but had absolutely no end product.

Yep, i hate the fact that there are people out there that will make some bullshit just to say one league is superior.

 

[Alex-444]

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[pitbull]

That really is irrelevant. They lost Gervinho for 4.5 weeks. Not two months. He came back in poor fitness. I could say it was Keita instead who was the problem. Or the sale of Destro. Lot's of things are wrong for Roma.

Arsenal went 4 wins-4 losses-2 draws in the matches Gervinho missed over the two AFCONs. That's significantly worse than what they did the rest of each of those two years also.

I'm not debating EPL vs Serie A or whatever twist you're trying to give it, my point was that Serie A defenses has problems handling players with explosive pace and Gervinho in good form is a clear example of that. Clearly he hasn't been in good form this year and that also reflects on Roma's results since he has been an important player for them, more so than Destro or Keita.

 

[swag]

6-1 odds only behind Bayern, Barca, and Real Madrid.... Unthinkable

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/...tico-madrid-bayern-munich-barcelona-favorites

 

[ALC]

What? This isn't true in the slightest. His goals per minute was much better for Arsenal. And his assists per minute are better for Roma.

9 goals - 8 assists for Arsenal in 2701 minutes in Premier League = 1 goal / 300 minutes 1 assist / 337 minutes 1 goal or assist / 158 minutes

11 goals - 16 assists for Roma in 4320 minutes in Serie A = 1 goal / 393 minutes 1 assist / 270 minutes 1 goal or assist / 160 minutes

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This.

It's all people who like to point at cases like Gervinho as proof that Premier League is way better than Serie A. It's an obvious fallacy, and doesn't at all correlate to reality. Gervinho is actually slightly worse in Serie A in terms of goals+assists to minutes played.

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. Created a lot of chances, but had absolutely no end product.

Goals and assists are not the only way you can have an impact. He makes the game for Roma, attacks a lot more, gives more room to his teammates, etc. from what I've seen during Roma games, he's one of their most dangerous players while at Arsena he was mainly annoying to watch.

 

[Hust]

Germinho sucks.

 

[Mohad]

Germinho sucks.

Nah I'm sure you would take him over Llorente and Marti.

 

[Post Ironic]

Goals and assists are not the only way you can have an impact. He makes the game for Roma, attacks a lot more, gives more room to his teammates, etc. from what I've seen during Roma games, he's one of their most dangerous players while at Arsena he was mainly annoying to watch.

He did the exact same thing at Arsenal. He attacked a lot, gave room to his teammates, and created a ton of chances. Roma fans hate him. Go read their forum. Half the comments are about how much he sucks, and how he kills all their chances. It was the exact same thing at Arsenal. He kills so many chances with terrible end product. Not just scoring, but also terrible passing. And it's no different at Roma than it was at Arsenal. He's not a good example at all of someone tearing up Serie A after failing in the EPL, because he did the exact same thing there, ran by defences, and failed to score, or make the nice pass to finish.

 

[Fred]

Goals and assists are not the only way you can have an impact. He makes the game for Roma, attacks a lot more, gives more room to his teammates, etc. from what I've seen during Roma games, he's one of their most dangerous players while at Arsenal he was mainly annoying to watch.

Completely agree, he was a horrible player for us, he isn't for Roma. Statistics don't tell the full story, thats why you have to watch football matches, anyone who watched him back when he used to play for us would know he was an extremely frustrating player, thats why he got benched, and thats why he got sold after just two seasons, even though Wenger is the type that keeps giving players chances.

Fact of the matter is even in our worst seasons under Wenger, we were always a very attack minded team, we always played good attacking football and scored a lot of goals. Attackers who play for us have a lot more chances than most other teams, its why Giroud in his first two seasons with us had decent statistics but most Arsenal fans would tell you the guy was not good enough(This season is different obviously, he's playing better than he ever has for Arsenal). Adebayor had decent statistics, but anyone who was here the season he scored 24 league goals, knows that I didn't rate him even then, and when he moved away from Arsenal he got found out.

 

[frzl]

6-1 odds only behind Bayern, Barca, and Real Madrid.... Unthinkable

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/...tico-madrid-bayern-munich-barcelona-favorites

well that had to be expected after we drew monaco ^^

 

[AOD4]

Completely agree, he was a horrible player for us, he isn't for Roma. Statistics don't tell the full story, thats why you have to watch football matches, anyone who watched him back when he used to play for us would know he was an extremely frustrating player, thats why he got benched, and thats why he got sold after just two seasons, even though Wenger is the type that keeps giving players chances.

Fact of the matter is even in our worst seasons under Wenger, we were always a very attack minded team, we always played good attacking football and scored a lot of goals. Attackers who play for us have a lot more chances than most other teams, its why Giroud in his first two seasons with us had decent statistics but most Arsenal fans would tell you the guy was not good enough(This season is different obviously, he's playing better than he ever has for Arsenal). Adebayor had decent statistics, but anyone who was here the season he scored 24 league goals, knows that I didn't rate him even then, and when he moved away from Arsenal he got found out.

Ya he deemed to gain a new life under Roma after his frustrating outing in Arsenal.

 

[Siamak]

Marco Verratti: " I dream of a Juventus-PSG Champions League final "

 

[swag]

Marco Verratti: " I dream of a Juventus-PSG Champions League final "

You dream that you never have to mark anybody in your life because you're so horrible at it.