[CL]Arsenal vs Juventus (11 Viewers)
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good post andy .
but i will have to disagree with u here. mybe we should trying to impose our style of play on arsenal rather than changing our formation to occupy them.
I think with our current style of play, we hold the ball often and we dont give it way very easily.
I think the most important thing is to play a physical game with them, as they dont like that.Teams like blackburn ,everton gave them a very hard time in the EPL.
abt the 4-5-1 u suggested, i dont think its the best formation to play with at the first game, since we dont have neddy and i dont think alex would do a good job playing as a playmaker in the middle of the park. I remember him playin in that position a couple of time and he didnt do well. So mybe that an option for the 2nd but it will have different conditions later.
but i will have to disagree with u here. mybe we should trying to impose our style of play on arsenal rather than changing our formation to occupy them.
I think with our current style of play, we hold the ball often and we dont give it way very easily.
I think the most important thing is to play a physical game with them, as they dont like that.Teams like blackburn ,everton gave them a very hard time in the EPL.
abt the 4-5-1 u suggested, i dont think its the best formation to play with at the first game, since we dont have neddy and i dont think alex would do a good job playing as a playmaker in the middle of the park. I remember him playin in that position a couple of time and he didnt do well. So mybe that an option for the 2nd but it will have different conditions later.
I sincerely think our current style of play would play right into the hands of Wenger's men. Actually, we seemingly lack a style of play or panache because we always just go through the motions and rely on mishaps or breaks to win matches at the highest level. In every match we partake in the Champions League we always take the pitch in a lethargic fashion and play at such a lackluster pace that we have trouble causing problems against almost anybody. I garuantee you that if we take the pitch at Highbury like we usually do against anybody else, Arsenal will run rings around us because we will not be able to close them down playing so slowly and we will give them too much space to play. This situation will be similar to that of the Liverpool debacle last season in which we took the pitch hungover and Liverpool completely owned us. It will happen again against the the Gunners.
Our style of play simply does not work in Europe and this especially applies to English teams...that's fairly obvious. If Capello sets us out on the pitch like he usually does we will be shocked to find Arsenal causing us a lot of problems because they will just run over us with quick passing and touches and sheer speed. Its like trying to match a Cadillac Escalade with a BMW M3...both are expensive and luxurious and hard to beat vehicles, however, in a race the latter will own our Escalade unless we get a head start. We must obtain that head start against Arsenal by forcing them to commit errors with our power and posession in midfield. I seriously doubt our current tactics will achieve such an objective, and we will indeed stumble.
Our style of play simply does not work in Europe and this especially applies to English teams...that's fairly obvious. If Capello sets us out on the pitch like he usually does we will be shocked to find Arsenal causing us a lot of problems because they will just run over us with quick passing and touches and sheer speed. Its like trying to match a Cadillac Escalade with a BMW M3...both are expensive and luxurious and hard to beat vehicles, however, in a race the latter will own our Escalade unless we get a head start. We must obtain that head start against Arsenal by forcing them to commit errors with our power and posession in midfield. I seriously doubt our current tactics will achieve such an objective, and we will indeed stumble.
u compared this arsenal team to liverpool last year, the difference is simple between both of them, arsenal aren't a defensive team and they r relying on their defense way too much and wenger isnt seeing that.
Although toure has been playing well, sanderos cant be compared to hyppia or carrgher last year , and i beleive he is a very weak link in that defense.And eboue and flamini aren't the best on the flanks.So there will be room for erros that we can capitilize on.
I still think our worst enemy here is complacency, and our mental attitude going into this game.As they will be very fired up for this game, if we can match their attitude then we could beat them.
Wenger's 4-5-1 formation will not help them at all.And it will be to our advantage.
Although toure has been playing well, sanderos cant be compared to hyppia or carrgher last year , and i beleive he is a very weak link in that defense.And eboue and flamini aren't the best on the flanks.So there will be room for erros that we can capitilize on.
I still think our worst enemy here is complacency, and our mental attitude going into this game.As they will be very fired up for this game, if we can match their attitude then we could beat them.
Wenger's 4-5-1 formation will not help them at all.And it will be to our advantage.
Yes I did compare this Arsenal team to Liverpool last season because they will come out of the gate at a fast tempo and cause us all sorts of problems. They would attack Juventus in almost the exact same way. Arsenal's defense is not as solid as Liverpool's, however they are better going forward and will work our defense much more adeptly simply because Henry will be up there himself. Our complacent mental attitude is always something that causes us problems in Europe, and these matches will be no exception.
Wenger's formation and the attitude in which he sets his side out on the pitch will cause us several problems, make no mistake. Our slow and machine-like side will not be able to keep up with them unless we take the game to Arsenal and control the match.
Wenger's formation and the attitude in which he sets his side out on the pitch will cause us several problems, make no mistake. Our slow and machine-like side will not be able to keep up with them unless we take the game to Arsenal and control the match.
Traditionally juventus dont get good result versus English teams. But i think we can do it versus this Arsenal team. A lot is been asked about how we can cope with their high speed. But can THEY cope with OUR low-speed? Arsenal is a fast paced team to build around their top player Henry. If the opponent tries to match that mentality they will came out 2nd best and lost 0-4. But if we slow the paced of the game spaces and breaks are limited and supply to henry will be sparse. It will be a frustrating resilience time for Arsenal again us and during that period we will give a suckerpunch into their stomach by trezeguet .
i expect 4-4-2 to give us the balance of defence and all the needed goals like it did tirelessly along this 2 years. The players with the help of Capellos tactic experties and strict selection will win us the Cl and scudetto double this season.
i can just feel it. Our players maybe not the best compared to others but tied into a team by capello, we are undefeatable. We also have important dose of luck as well . Champions still need those to be champions of knock outs tournaments.
i expect 4-4-2 to give us the balance of defence and all the needed goals like it did tirelessly along this 2 years. The players with the help of Capellos tactic experties and strict selection will win us the Cl and scudetto double this season.
i can just feel it. Our players maybe not the best compared to others but tied into a team by capello, we are undefeatable. We also have important dose of luck as well . Champions still need those to be champions of knock outs tournaments.
Something worries me, both Kovac and Thuram r 1 yellow card away from suspension. Oh man this means we have to use Giannichedda as a CB. I know that he is ok, but I feel that Tudor should have been brought back at this crucial stage. If we went out becos of lack of defenders and being outplayed, you know who to blame.
People that are criticising our defensive "problems"
We have the 3rd best defensive record in the league (21), behind Chelsea and Liverpool and we have the best defensive record in the CL.
We have used 23 different combinations in defence this season due to injuries, I think it's an incredible feat for such a young defence.
But Juve will be a different test, but the media emphasis on our "poor" defence is unjust and unfair.
We have the 3rd best defensive record in the league (21), behind Chelsea and Liverpool and we have the best defensive record in the CL.
We have used 23 different combinations in defence this season due to injuries, I think it's an incredible feat for such a young defence.
But Juve will be a different test, but the media emphasis on our "poor" defence is unjust and unfair.
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