[CL]Arsenal vs Juventus (12 Viewers)

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Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
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come on, stop blaming Zlatan, what should he do when he allways get long ball and he is alone up front.. and what shall he do that capello allways prefers him over the inform DP..
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Maresca said:
come on, stop blaming Zlatan, what should he do when he allways get long ball and he is alone up front.. and what shall he do that capello allways prefers him over the inform DP..
He should not give the ball away just when he receives it or he should be able to give a pass that reaches a teammate.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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First allow me to Salut the likes of Vinman around here. A man that is always getting bashed and criticize for saying the truth. Vinman, I read your prediction before the game and as soon as the ref blowed his Final whistle, I just wanted to log in and Salut you.

As for the game, I'm really stunned and probably had no comment If the forum would have been OK yesterday.

I dedicate this loss to the likes of (The Champions, Snoop and Engonga and the rest) who kept bashing us and predicting that Zlatan will be the sex bomb against Arsenal and he'll minimum score 2goals. Not to forget that the likes of you still think that no matter what Capello will be doing, no matter what formation or tactics he'll be using we should always shut up and probably masturbate on his eye-glasses.

-Thank you Capello for using Trezeguet,Camoranesi,Cannavaro and the rest in a Roma game where we could have used our 2nd team and let the FATIGUE hit them before the highbury game.

-Thank you Capello for playing Del Piero when he wasn't Actually fit for the game and you could have played Adrian Mutu or Zalayeta in his place.(It's not like you didn't realize he was in pain against Livorno).

-Thank you for playing Zlatan Ibrahimovic whenever he's in good or bad form, Even If he's Injured he'll still play. So Grazie.

-Thank you for playing Adrian Mutu on the Wing, when the Romanian Star had never played in that Position...Need I mention(Parma,Chelsea, Romania NT)

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Talking about last night performance, I can say nothing but to repeat what the Comm said, that It's one of the worst performance in Juve's history. It would have been better to see another L'Pool dilemma, yet It was worse.

Capello stated that we dominated the first 15min??? What planet he's living on?

Again unfit player from the squad is being used and this time Ladies and Gentlemen, It's Jonathan Zebina following(Zambrotta,Zlatan and Del Piero).

Canna proved me once more that he's Worlds best Defender again, our only defender that was able to do his Job.

Our Midfielders reminded me of the highschool I played against 3years ago when my team-mates and I turned them into a "Circus show". Mutu playing on the wing once more???? What world has came to FFS. It's Fvcking Clear that the man isn't happy with his position, he's a STRIKER or a PLAYMAKER. Even Zambrotta crossed more than him last night.

As for Zlatan, I really Enjoyed lot posts in this match thread when they were suggesting before Dp got Injured that It's better to Start with Ibra because his body will probably help him and he's pretty too strong. Shows how much Football knowledge these ppl got. Mike Tyson should have probably took part of this game(Talking about Strong Body and handling players).

Trezeguet was Subs while Zlatan was left on the pitch......Nothing new eh??? Yeah, I know.


"If there's any hope, thats IF, to beat Arsenal and probably qualify, Is to have Ale Del Piero in the game from the START. It's as simple as that "No Del Piero, No Desire".

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I'm not going to rate our players......I'll be wasting time.

Just in a short-cut....Buffon was our best player alongside Canna.
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
Maresca said:
come on, stop blaming Zlatan, what should he do when he allways get long ball and he is alone up front.. and what shall he do that capello allways prefers him over the inform DP..
It was a joke man! I have nothing against him...:p

He isn't playing as he should thats all
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
Azzurri7 said:
First allow me to Salut the likes of Vinman around here. A man that is always getting bashed and criticize for saying the truth. Vinman, I read your prediction before the game and as soon as the ref blowed his Final whistle, I just wanted to log in and Salut you.

As for the game, I'm really stunned and probably had no comment If the forum would have been OK yesterday.

I dedicate this loss to the likes of (The Champions, Snoop and Engonga and the rest) who kept bashing us and predicting that Zlatan will be the sex bomb against Arsenal and he'll minimum score 2goals. Not to forget that the likes of you still think that no matter what Capello will be doing, no matter what formation or tactics he'll be using we should always shut up and probably masturbate on his eye-glasses.

-Thank you Capello for using Trezeguet,Camoranesi,Cannavaro and the rest in a Roma game where we could have used our 2nd team and let the FATIGUE hit them before the highbury game.

-Thank you Capello for playing Del Piero when he wasn't Actually fit for the game and you could have played Adrian Mutu or Zalayeta in his place.(It's not like you didn't realize he was in pain against Livorno).

-Thank you for playing Zlatan Ibrahimovic whenever he's in good or bad form, Even If he's Injured he'll still play. So Grazie.

-Thank you for playing Adrian Mutu on the Wing, when the Romanian Star had never played in that Position...Need I mention(Parma,Chelsea, Romania NT)

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Talking about last night performance, I can say nothing but to repeat what the Comm said, that It's one of the worst performance in Juve's history. It would have been better to see another L'Pool dilemma, yet It was worse.

Capello stated that we dominated the first 15min??? What planet he's living on?

Again unfit player from the squad is being used and this time Ladies and Gentlemen, It's Jonathan Zebina following(Zambrotta,Zlatan and Del Piero).

Canna proved me once more that he's Worlds best Defender again, our only defender that was able to do his Job.

Our Midfielders reminded me of the highschool I played against 3years ago when my team-mates and I turned them into a "Circus show". Mutu playing on the wing once more???? What world has came to FFS. It's Fvcking Clear that the man isn't happy with his position, he's a STRIKER or a PLAYMAKER. Even Zambrotta crossed more than him last night.

As for Zlatan, I really Enjoyed lot posts in this match thread when they were suggesting before Dp got Injured that It's better to Start with Ibra because his body will probably help him and he's pretty too strong. Shows how much Football knowledge these ppl got. Mike Tyson should have probably took part of this game(Talking about Strong Body and handling players).

Trezeguet was Subs while Zlatan was left on the pitch......Nothing new eh??? Yeah, I know.


"If there's any hope, thats IF, to beat Arsenal and probably qualify, Is to have Ale Del Piero in the game. It's as simple as that "No Del Piero, No Desire".

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I'm not going to rate our players......I'll be wasting time.

Just in a short-cut....Buffon was our best player alongside Canna.

I agree with you at all Rab. Specially on your dedication!
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
BTW, I would like to remind this...

NYJuve said:
I really do not understand all this Ibra-bashing.
He didn't play that bad on Saturday, considering the team-performance and am I wrong or was it Trezeguet that wasted the 2-0 in an incredible way?
If that happened to Ibra, I would be reading about putting him in the death-row by now.
Mutu will start on the left-wing, Ibra will start forward. And that would have happened even with Del Piero available.
Now you understand all this Ibra-bashing..??
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
4,679
To all Capello lovers, do you think we are happy now that our predictions have kinda come true? Do you think we have been having a go because we love Dp and hate Capello? Do you think because you support Capello no matter what, you actually no a lick what you are talking about? For almost forever we have been winning but never convincing in both serieA and Cl, but you guys always ignore the way we play but point to the so boring, " we are top of the league and we have been ever since Capello took over"
Who gives a shite? If i was not a Juve supporter, I would have shouted to the towers, that we have been helped enormously by refereeing decisions all the way through. Any 50-50 offside decions is given in our favour both ways, almost every foul whther its correct or not we seem to always get the decisions, not to talk about it seems to me every time we have met teams in serieA, they have had most of their key players missing and we still limp to victories hardly impressing in most games.
In serieA, teams do not attack us as much as they can cos they all have the same mentality, a draw or a narrow defeat against the mighty Juve is good enuff
Unlike Cl where they do not give a damn about us and the referees, if I am honest tend to go against Italian sides a bit , but the fact is that is they attack us and wanna win and we cannot cope with that.
We have a manager who always relies on individual talent rather than his own acumen and always wants not to lose
To say we were pathetic is heaping abuse on the word pathetic
4-4-2? What the hell is that with a team without wingers, a team without pace and a team crudely exposed yesterday as seriously lacking stamina.
Did anyone see the way Vieria was almost dead on his feet in the latter stages of the game, he could not run at all. Emerson was nowhere to be seen
How many times will i say their combo is shite? They are neither creative and on yesterday's eveidence are not destructive as a combo. They are not in your face at all and just cannot cope with pass and movement cos they do not have any.
How is Mutu a winger and why is he persitently played there? I will tell you its because in serieA, he gets away with it cos of the poor teams we do now have in serieA
Why did zlatan finish the game? Why was Trez subbed?
Seriously which of those 2 is more than likely to score a goal? did we realy need aplayer to hold up the play? Even if he did where was the support gonna come from?
I was partly joking when i said in the roma thread that Capello might play Chiellini in midfield, he actualy did it and persisted with Zambrtotta behind him
I mean Zambrotta has experience playing in the midfield
Zalayeta? To do what exactly?
Now serious questions need to be asked and answered
Firstly why did Camoranesi act the way he did? There seems to be a problem with some of the players and the manager as he is not a likeable person, so I am wondering if some sections of the team are not disgusted with his tactics and his choice of personnel as Camo showed a distinct lack of respect towards him last night
is the board seriously thinking of letting Capello stay beyond this season if so why? Cos no chance in hell are we winning Cl with him there if he persists with 4-4-2
But the 1 thing that will really disappoint me is if those who have been supporting Capello all season now turn against him as that will ne utter hypocrisy
He has not changed his tactics so whilst you praise him when it has worked, you ought to stand by him when it has not
For me, he is absolute rubbish and I have been saying that forever, we win against smaller teams cos of the individuals he is got, not the tactics he employs but they cannot win against teams with better players cos most of them are playing out of position
Please Capello, go I am begging
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
Azzurri7 said:
First allow me to Salut the likes of Vinman around here. A man that is always getting bashed and criticize for saying the truth. Vinman, I read your prediction before the game and as soon as the ref blowed his Final whistle, I just wanted to log in and Salut you.

As for the game, I'm really stunned and probably had no comment If the forum would have been OK yesterday.

I dedicate this loss to the likes of (The Champions, Snoop and Engonga and the rest) who kept bashing us and predicting that Zlatan will be the sex bomb against Arsenal and he'll minimum score 2goals. Not to forget that the likes of you still think that no matter what Capello will be doing, no matter what formation or tactics he'll be using we should always shut up and probably masturbate on his eye-glasses.

-Thank you Capello for using Trezeguet,Camoranesi,Cannavaro and the rest in a Roma game where we could have used our 2nd team and let the FATIGUE hit them before the highbury game.

-Thank you Capello for playing Del Piero when he wasn't Actually fit for the game and you could have played Adrian Mutu or Zalayeta in his place.(It's not like you didn't realize he was in pain against Livorno).

-Thank you for playing Zlatan Ibrahimovic whenever he's in good or bad form, Even If he's Injured he'll still play. So Grazie.

-Thank you for playing Adrian Mutu on the Wing, when the Romanian Star had never played in that Position...Need I mention(Parma,Chelsea, Romania NT)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Talking about last night performance, I can say nothing but to repeat what the Comm said, that It's one of the worst performance in Juve's history. It would have been better to see another L'Pool dilemma, yet It was worse.

Capello stated that we dominated the first 15min??? What planet he's living on?

Again unfit player from the squad is being used and this time Ladies and Gentlemen, It's Jonathan Zebina following(Zambrotta,Zlatan and Del Piero).

Canna proved me once more that he's Worlds best Defender again, our only defender that was able to do his Job.

Our Midfielders reminded me of the highschool I played against 3years ago when my team-mates and I turned them into a "Circus show". Mutu playing on the wing once more???? What world has came to FFS. It's Fvcking Clear that the man isn't happy with his position, he's a STRIKER or a PLAYMAKER. Even Zambrotta crossed more than him last night.

As for Zlatan, I really Enjoyed lot posts in this match thread when they were suggesting before Dp got Injured that It's better to Start with Ibra because his body will probably help him and he's pretty too strong. Shows how much Football knowledge these ppl got. Mike Tyson should have probably took part of this game(Talking about Strong Body and handling players).

Trezeguet was Subs while Zlatan was left on the pitch......Nothing new eh??? Yeah, I know.


"If there's any hope, thats IF, to beat Arsenal and probably qualify, Is to have Ale Del Piero in the game from the START. It's as simple as that "No Del Piero, No Desire".

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I'm not going to rate our players......I'll be wasting time.

Just in a short-cut....Buffon was our best player alongside Canna.
100% agree
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
Azzurri7 said:
"If there's any hope, thats IF, to beat Arsenal and probably qualify, Is to have Ale Del Piero in the game from the START. It's as simple as that "No Del Piero, No Desire".
after the first half I knew that we are not gonna score, because every time we were in trouble DP came in and solved the damage.. but yesterday there were no DP or Nedved, the only 2 players who can change our game..
 

Edge

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Jun 14, 2004
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After hearing all the opinions on Capello and Zlatan etc etc, surely you guys can see one thing too.....and that is most obvious thing, our squad is shit ! its lack of depth is shocking for a Serie A champion.....we lack pace, youth, and most importantly creativity....

We need new blood in the summer so desperately that I just hope Moggi knows what he is doing....
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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NYJuve said:
--------------Buffon---------------------
-------Thuram Cannavaro Kovac --
---Giannichedda Emerson Nedved--
-----------------Mutu-------------------
-------Ibrahimovic Trezeguet--------

You're the one who said that last time you saw a player like Zidane was Ibra.

No wonder why you keep him on the Field.

Andy said:
Has anybody here changed their opinion on Capello over the past couple months? I would seriously like to know.

Not Snoop.

Jeeks said:
I can't believe people still include that clown in their formations, yes that clown
Didn't you actually know that If Ibra is Inform he can be a danger and a threat to Kolo and his CO.:rolleyes:


Jeeks said:
I am watching Lyon - Milan right now and couldn't but notice something amazing. Both teams' players run after their marker after they loose the ball. They really try to recover it.
People can call me cunt, shithead, anything. But watching Milan today was simply amazing though they didn't play THAT good, I Simply ADMIRE their potential and ambition. and Btw, It felt soo good to see Paolo Maldini back:touched:
 

Maresca

Senior Member
Aug 23, 2004
8,235
Edge said:
After hearing all the opinions on Capello and Zlatan etc etc, surely you guys can see one thing too.....and that is most obvious thing, our squad is shit ! its lack of depth is shocking for a Serie A champion.....we lack pace, youth, and most importantly creativity....

We need new blood in the summer so desperately that I just hope Moggi knows what he is doing....
you can forget about it.. when juve buy´s young players they go on loan to other clubs.. other clubs give them faith.. they make mistakes, but who does not make mistakes. at least the young players think that they have to learn alot and learn from their mistakes, but how should we declare the mistakes of players like viera or thuram??.. may be moggi should loan them to siena..
 

Azzurri7

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Maresca said:
after the first half I knew that we are not gonna score, because every time we were in trouble DP came in and solved the damage.. but yesterday there were no DP or Nedved, the only 2 players who can change our game..

Nedved was our most Inform player lately. It's a shame we lost him in this match.

As for Del Piero......We probably all know he could've atleast scored that Freekick. I don't understand why Mutu didn't take it and left it for Ibra.
 
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